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FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was realizing - we don't have a thread of all of the early proof gold the forum has seen.

We've got some dealers and collectors on here with a few of these rarities. Past or present, if you have it and want to post it, please do so! I know we had almost a page on the CAC forums of proof $3s, so it would be super cool if we could do it here.

For the record, I'm defining early proof gold as anything pre-1933.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    I wish.

    Moi Aussi.

  • MartinMartin Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2023 5:53PM

    This thread is for Boiler,Cardinal, TDN or floridafacelifter
    I too wish

    Martin

  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DarkStar said:

    I generally don’t go for old holders and gold stickers but that’s quite a coin/combo you got going on there!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful proof gold coins.... Wish I had one.... Cheers, RickO

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW. @Floridafacelifter that 1866 DE is stunning.
    All the coins posted so far are amazing, but the 1866 DE has me mesmerized.

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  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2023 5:07AM

    @gumby1234 said:
    WOW. @Floridafacelifter that 1866 DE is stunning.
    All the coins posted so far are amazing, but the 1866 DE has me mesmerized.

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    Me to! It’s hard to believe those were produced in the wee hours after the end of the Civil War and are comparable to what’s coming from the Mint today!😳
    If I could only pop in at the LCS and pick one up!😉

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @retirednow that is really cool! Thanks for the context.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Happy Memorial Day everyone!

    67DCAM

    Very Nice!

    Do you have an 1867 Proof $20, or an 1865 With Motto pattern? If so, could you please show them? There is a peculiarity on the word “IN” I would like to discuss.

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  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    Happy Memorial Day everyone!

    67DCAM

    Very Nice!

    Do you have an 1867 Proof $20, or an 1865 With Motto pattern? If so, could you please show them? There is a peculiarity on the word “IN” I would like to discuss.

    I don’t have either- sorry!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks.
    Does anybody have an 1867 Proof $20 they can show, or an 1865 With Motto in any metal, or just good pictures you can post?

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Thanks.
    Does anybody have an 1867 Proof $20 they can show, or an 1865 With Motto in any metal, or just good pictures you can post?

    One from Coinfacts:

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Thanks.
    Does anybody have an 1867 Proof $20 they can show, or an 1865 With Motto in any metal, or just good pictures you can post?

    One from Coinfacts:

    That works. Thanks.
    Look at the position of the word “IN” relative to the one on the 1866 Proof above.

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw it right after I posted the coin.

    Redesigned master die, with the IN punched differently during production?

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two different “With Motto” hubs were made, one with a “High IN” and one with a “Low IN.”
    At least one working die was made from both hubs, showing strong dual hub doubling on the “IN.” It was used in San Francisco. I am 99% sure it was in 1866, but am watching the Indy race and will check my notes later.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I published this a long time ago but it never got the recognition I thought it deserved.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @retirednow said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Two different “With Motto” hubs were made, one with a “High IN” and one with a “Low IN.”
    At least one working die was made from both hubs, showing strong dual hub doubling on the “IN.” It was used in San Francisco. I am 99% sure it was in 1866, but am watching the Indy race and will check my notes later.

    Interesting ...I have this 1867 J-604 20$ Pattern (In Copper) (NGC63BN)

    Thanks.
    Interesting that the off-metal Proof strikes are from a different Proof die than the gold Proof strikes.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a picture of the 1865 With Motto pattern motto with the high "IN"

    https://uspatterns.stores.yahoo.net/j453p526.html

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I misremembered on the 1866 $20 with the Dual-hubbed IN. It was an 1866 Philadelphia. Here is a picture from CoinFacts:

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1866-20-motto/8949

    And since we have drifted away from early Proofs I am now going to start another thread and stop hijacking this one.

    TD

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steveben yours looks just like mine! Probably from the same die pair :D

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