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ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭✭

What do you think our hosts graded this 25-S Buff? What would you grade it? Answer will be posted later today.


  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I adore Buffalo nickels and absolutely love your coin! However, strike difficulties that result in odd looking coins throughout the grading spectrum have kept me from collecting the series over the years.

    The strike is phenomenal for the issue with the mintmark being crisp, bold and clear while the letters and elements near the rims are present far more obviously than on many issues. Upon first glance at the reverse it appears EF40, but the obverse looks to have less wear than that grade level based on what was likely a slightly weaker strike than later date coins.

    I'll keep the guess at EF40, but this is a super-gem for the grade.

    PS: I just looked through David Lange's book on the series and saw the hand-written personalization he left for me on one of the cover pages. :/

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has a well-struck reverse from a relatively fresh die.
    The obverse die is a later die state than the reverse.
    So the obverse is a little bit soft.

    But overall, a nice EF40.

  • mikee999mikee999 Posts: 248 ✭✭✭


  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 171 ✭✭✭✭

    I can't judge Buffs worth a crap, but going to lowball this one and say VF30.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 27, 2023 5:42PM

    ALL 1925 Buffalo Nicklels have a weak date on the first two numbers.of the date. The Master Dies had the deficiency as made and that lack of depth was transferred to all coins.

    Being in the middle of the roaring 20's, seems like the partying times in that decade caught up with Mint employees, as the quality of the dies should never have gotten so bad.

    No matter, the coin is better than the run of the mill 25-S, and also features a full but worn horn, and a better rendered top feather than most of the mintage.

    It's a big leap over the 1925-D, which just looks bad no matter how you view it.

    XF-40, and if it didn't have the rim merging with the "T" in LIBERTY, I might venture to say XF-45.


    Edited to say 1925-D.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 35

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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭



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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40 was my first impression.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭✭

    It’s in a PCGS VF25 holder. Go figure. Thanks for your opinions!

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy Cow!

    However, it shouldn't really surprise me that my grade and the PCGS assigned grade are so far off as this is the series that PCGS, NGC and myself disagree with the greatest frequency.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:
    It’s in a PCGS VF25 holder. Go figure. Thanks for your opinions!

    Sorry for the Lol, but either they’ve gotten really tough, or just flat out missed the boat on this one.

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial thought was 35 before I read TomB’s guess, which is reasonable. The assigned grade seems a little harsh -
    Maybe some net grading going on because of the smashed rim at 2:30 on the obverse.

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  • TriPodBuffaloTriPodBuffalo Posts: 103 ✭✭✭

    Looks like the graders were pretty tough on this one. I would have guessed xf45 or au50.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have been okay with 35 ... and scratched my head furiously at 30 ... but 25 ... nah. Not from what I can see. Sorry.

    Of course, as a BUYER ... yes please!

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late, I would have said 35.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take a look at this PCGS reverse by Photograde:

    Look familiar?


    P.S. I know it's only one side, but the similarity is convincing

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,768 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 30

  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 390 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow, really hard to believe that coin is a 25!😩

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was 35... and I was thinking it may be a bit harsh... but never expected 25. Cheers, RickO

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