Newp/GTG: 1836 half-eagle

lordmarcovan

Just won in a Heritage auction. Guess the grade, if you're so inclined.

This will be the first Classic Head I've owned that wasn't dated 1834.

Cladiator

I won't hazard a guess at the grade as I'm pretty much clueless to the series. I can say the coin has a magnificent eye appeal though. Nice job LM.

braddick

@Cladiator said:
I won't hazard a guess at the grade as I'm pretty much clueless to the series. I can say the coin has a magnificent eye appeal though. Nice job LM.

Equally so yet will venture a grade of VF20.

jughead1893

30

lordmarcovan

I believe this now completes my basic type set of post-1834 gold. I have all the basic designs now from dollar through double-eagle, with all denominations covered. What I do not have completely represented are the subtypes like Motto/No Motto, etc.

lordmarcovan

For the record, I’d have guessed VF30 if I didn’t know the grade. Not saying that’s the actual PCGS grade here. Just the way I’d have seen it. But for whatever reason, I have found (in my limited experience) that the TPGs tend to grade these more liberally than I’d expect, a lot of the time.

lermish

Nice coin! 35

alaura22

EF-45
very nice coin

Mr_Spud

40

dcarr

EF-40+

alaura22

@dcarr said:
EF-40+

40+ ?

dcarr

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:
EF-40+

40+ ?

Yes, that is what I would grade it (based on the images).
But no, I don't expect it to have been assigned that grade by anybody else.

alaura22

@dcarr said:

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:
EF-40+

40+ ?

Yes, that is what I would grade it (based on the images).
But no, I don't expect it to have been assigned that grade by anybody else.

So would that be a 45?

lordmarcovan

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:
EF-40+

40+ ?

Yes, that is what I would grade it (based on the images).
But no, I don't expect it to have been assigned that grade by anybody else.

So would that be a 45?

Not quite. PCGS does assign plus grades. 40+ would be between 40 and 45.

I will say this one does not have a plus grade on the label.

alaura22

@lordmarcovan said:

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:

@alaura22 said:

@dcarr said:
EF-40+

40+ ?

Yes, that is what I would grade it (based on the images).
But no, I don't expect it to have been assigned that grade by anybody else.

So would that be a 45?

Not quite. PCGS does assign plus grades. 40+ would be between 40 and 45.

I will say this one does not have a plus grade on the label.

I stand corrected, I've never seen that grade before
My bad
Could you show me a coin graded 40+?

lordmarcovan

By way of comparison with its little sister, here is my Classic Head quarter-eagle, which is a PCGS 40.

alaura22

@lordmarcovan said:
By way of comparison with its little sister, here is my Classic Head quarter-eagle, which is a PCGS 40.

Not seeing the +

lordmarcovan

I stand corrected, I've never seen that grade before
My bad
Could you show me a coin graded 40+?

You can be forgiven for that- plus grades are not terribly common, at least not in this grade range. I don’t have any.

alaura22

@lordmarcovan said:

I stand corrected, I've never seen that grade before
My bad
Could you show me a coin graded 40+?

You can be forgiven for that- plus grades are not terribly common, at least not in this grade range. I don’t have any.

Thank you me'lord, but I still haven't been able to locate a 40+ coin
Anywhere
Anybody?

Edited to add: There is no such grade as 40+
So I guess you can be forgiven also

PerryHall

XF40 is the grade I would give it. Very attractive coin. During this era, the $5 was the highest denomination coin produced by the US Mint. The mint stopped producing the $10 gold coin many years earlier in 1804 and the $20 wouldn't come along until 1850 after gold was discovered in California resulting in the gold rush which some historians claim to be the greatest peacetime migration of people. It's neat to think that the Alamo fell this year during the war for Texas independence. Very cool and historic coin.

lordmarcovan

@PerryHall - thanks.

Here’s the answer, for those ready to see the reveal:

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/43096849

CharlotteDude

I haven’t accessed the link yet, but I’ll venture an EF-40, and a nice one at that!

ricko

I would have been right on this one.... Darn, just a couple hours late to the game. Nice 40 gold. Cheers, RickO

Smudge

I’ll go 40 too.

dhikewhitney

VF35

may

30-35, Very good eye-appeal.

The_Dinosaur_Man

My guess was 35. Nice to see the result in the link above. That is a pretty sweet coin.

Manifest_Destiny

vf25

OldeTowneCoinShoppe

I think this is the lowest grade for which PCGS will offer a "plus":

marcmoish

I would have been at 35, nice pick up.

Smudge

@OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
I think this is the lowest grade for which PCGS will offer a "plus":

If you look at the price guide you will see that you are right.

privatecoin

VF30

Project Numismatics

40 CAC. I’ll check myself by clicking the link now!

@lordmarcovan - you have an excellent eye as usual. Very attractive coin. Congrats!

Cladiator

@Smudge said:

@OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:
I think this is the lowest grade for which PCGS will offer a "plus":

If you look at the price guide you will see that you are right.

Yup, spot on. Here's a screen shot showings PCGS only has the + from 45 and up...

tommy44

I would have guessed XF40 but who's going to believe me after you posted the link. Nice coin, I lake it a lot.

mirabela

Great coin!