Two 44-s Walkers
Eldorado9
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A couple colorful one's. Which one would you keep/sell?
MS-65+ CAC, Ex. Simpson collection
MS-66+ CAC
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Eldorado9
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I like them both, but if I could keep only one I would pick the Simpson coin.
I love the subtle color on that 2nd piece!
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Couldn't bring myself on selling either one!
Mike
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If you are in to flashy toners the Simpson example has that, but personally I'd keep the 66+ if it was my choice.
Ha! I knew this wouldn't be easy!
Tough! I'd probably keep the second, the MS66 CAC. Both are mind blowing.
Dave
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Mike
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That would be my choice as well.
I think it'd be the 2nd one for me. Better strike, better surfaces and I would bet, better luster. I do like the toning on the 1st one, but the 2nd looks like the clearly finer coin.
Tough choice though ...
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2 for me.
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I wouldn't buy either one. I think they are too weak a strikes for the assigned grades. NO thumb not interested. Just my opinion of course.
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The coins are dated 1944-S and aren’t going to be fully struck. That shouldn’t (and thankfully didn’t) preclude their assigned grades.
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If possible I would want to view both coins, in hand, under optimal lighting before I decided which one to purchase. Doing that is the only way to make a decision that you will not regret.
I do like both coins; and from the Trueview photo of the Simpson coin it appears that the reverse has outstanding luster.
Please post your 44-s photo with a full thumb, id love to see one!
Obviously he doesn't know the characteristics of S mint Walkers in the 41-45 years
Mike
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The Simpson example is on fire, dang! I have a ‘44 D hand engraved AW that has a similar look.
I'll take mine. Not a full thumb but there is one.
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OK good job. The second coin is a much better strike, and shows better skirt lines....The thumb remains weak, as expected, but certainly a much better strike. Well done.
Nice coins Gary, care to share the grades?
Mike
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The challenge here is to weigh eye appeal while taking into account strike. Not many San Fran attractive Walkers exist well struck in the 40s, and usually those that have a better strike end up dull looking with minimal color.
Personally, I'll always default to the overall more attractive and eye appealing coin with a weaker strike because that's what the market has valued more. This is likely due to the fact that many Walker collectors collect for an overall pleasing coin, rather than ignoring everything else and looking at the central hand. Keep in mind that the hand isn't struck up on most Proofs.
Of course, there are collectors who think I'm crazy for saying the above, and will go after those full hand coins. It's similar to collectors who choose only FH or FB coins. It's personal preference.
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Well said Sir!
I love them both and would happily buy/own either or both. This may seem odd to some folks, but this may be the time where I think the more lightly toned coin is clearly nicer (in my opinion) for eye appeal.
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Both are beautiful and I doubt I could bring myself to sell either if they were mine. That being said I personally like the second more and think it's a slightly stronger coin.
This is my thought as well. @Eldorado9 shared the #2 coin with me while it was still at auction, and having seen the #1 coin in hand my response to #2 was I believe "Buy it buy it buy it!"
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The light pastels and neons blend exceptionally well with the white surfaces, and I think that's something the #1 coin is lacking a bit. They are both exceptional.
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Coin #1 for me based on the pics. I like eye appeal over loupe appeal. But in person I might have a hard time setting down #2..
Edit: after a second look
absolutely 100% coin number one.
I like coin 2 a bit better. I prefer my WLH white thou because like Peace dollars they usually don't have awesome toning. Its weird how some coin series tone really nicely and others not so much.
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I would keep the second one and make an obscene profit selling the first one. Cheers, RickO
Thanks for the comments guys. The voting has #2 coin as the clear favorite.
I would prefer the second coin.
The color on the first is nice but the white center almost emphasizes the weak thumb (characteristic of the issue). Sun and the right field look nicer on the second one, not surprising for a coin a full grade point higher.
Does that mean that coin #1 is for sale???
Mike
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Neither are appealing to me, though no doubt they are to many others. I would not be a purchaser of these.
I love them both, go back and forth, and have a hard time deciding. Both are superior to anything else posted. You have a good dilemma!
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Ok ok I changed my mind again
Both are PCGS 65
I would do everything in my power to keep them both. But, if my hand was forced and that wasn’t an option; I’d go with the Simpson coin. Both examples exhibit the typical weak strike of a 1944-S but the color and eye appeal of the Simpson piece is off the charts.
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If I had to choose, I would keep the 66+, I love the understated colors on the obverse. If it were me, I would sell something else if I needed the $$$.
By my tally:
18.75% for the Simpson coin (n=3)
81.25% for the second coin (n=13)
I think that is the most agreement I've seen here in a while. It's also interesting that I am in such a small minority.
Either way, I think both coins are winners. What did you decide to do?
Having seen both coins in hand, the second is the clear winner IMO. The color and luster on it is fantastic, and it's not as overwhelming as the Simpson coin. Both sides are equally as attractive, while on the Simpson coin the obverse is leagues ahead of the reverse.
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I would sell both, if they were mine. Toning is not a plus for me, though it is for others. That is a part of making a positive hobby, variance.
I do like toning, but the Simpson just went a little too far, for me. So I would sell it and keep the 66+. Nice coins regardless.
Jim
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Love the look of the second coin. It would be a pretty easy choice for me.
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I ended up keeping the 66+ coin and the toned Simpson coin went to a new owner, from the board! He’s delighted with the coin! Yes, I miss it.