@ProofCollection said:
When was this done? Was it known to be rare at the time of mutilation?
I have no idea. But it's the rarest 1805 variety
Now it is. But in 1805 it probably wasn't.
Go mutilate a 2023 quarter and 200 years from now someone will question why someone would do such a thing...
It probably was not known to be a rare coin when it was done. I think the Browning quarter variety book came out in the mid 1920s.
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I'm guessing that this coin was a pocket piece that was carried with a small pocket knife and used as a cutting board for trimming cigars.
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Long before it was a Rare coin, it was a scarce coin that someone carried for a while and used between their knife and the tabletop when cutting a cigar
LoL edited to agree with Perry
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Back then, many silver coins (the 20c was favored) were used as surfaces to cut the tip of a cigar.
You will see blackened stains on these, along with the cuts. It appears on the coin above those black marks/stains were
harshly removed.
Yup. As a kid in the 50's/60's I don't know how may NY Yankee baseball cards I put in the spokes of my bike (RED SOX fan here), but that's why the survivors are so valuable.
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There is a vast population out there that are not coin collectors and have no idea of rarity, collectability, value beyond face. To coin collectors, this is a terrible thing, to non collectors, it is meaningless. Cheers, RickO
Erasmus loathed Martha due to her rejection of his proposal of marriage. He also hated her pet parrot because it mocked him. This coin reminded Erasmus of her and her dumb bird, so he took his frustration out on the coin.
(This is my hypothesis)
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The thread title has a false premise. The person who did this didn't do it to a "rare coin". When he did it, it was only pocket change which was worth only face value.
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When was this done? Was it known to be rare at the time of mutilation?
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I have no idea. But it's the rarest 1805 variety
Now it is. But in 1805 it probably wasn't.![;) ;)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/wink.png)
Go mutilate a 2023 quarter and 200 years from now someone will question why someone would do such a thing...
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Why would someone do this to an R6 coin?
1840-O WB6 (R6)
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Why would someone buy it? Hmmm.
He thought it was counterfeit.
Not a collector, all they needed it for was 25 cents and it was still worth 25 cents. Bored to the bone, I would imagine.
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It probably was not known to be a rare coin when it was done. I think the Browning quarter variety book came out in the mid 1920s.
I'm not sure but that's a shame. B5 is very tough to find in higher grade.
I'm guessing that this coin was a pocket piece that was carried with a small pocket knife and used as a cutting board for trimming cigars.
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Another sad example.
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Long before it was a Rare coin, it was a scarce coin that someone carried for a while and used between their knife and the tabletop when cutting a cigar
LoL edited to agree with Perry
(Wrote before reading the replies)
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I've been asking myself the same question on this one-
My guess was Joseph Wright, but he died in 1793.![:) :)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
Wow what happened to that half cent ?
Damage on rare coins is usually done before they became rare to collectors. There weren't many coin collectors in the 19th century.
I had to look up the coin what a shame still a very cool one of a kind piece
I thought of the cigar cutting too when I saw the image. I’ve heard that this once was a common thing to do, cut cigars on a coin.
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Born on a rough day at the mint followed by an encounter with some hooligan is my guess-
I agree however the damage looks more recent. Done maybe from a disgruntled significant other
they did not know it was a R-5 coin, or did and it was owned by an ex
Back then, many silver coins (the 20c was favored) were used as surfaces to cut the tip of a cigar.
You will see blackened stains on these, along with the cuts. It appears on the coin above those black marks/stains were
harshly removed.
peacockcoins
Yes, it's a Philadelphia issue. Fortin-102. The lowest mintage business strike dime in US history.
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I did it. I find old coins and scratch them up just to mess with you guys.
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Yup. As a kid in the 50's/60's I don't know how may NY Yankee baseball cards I put in the spokes of my bike (RED SOX fan here), but that's why the survivors are so valuable.![;) ;)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/wink.png)
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
There is a vast population out there that are not coin collectors and have no idea of rarity, collectability, value beyond face. To coin collectors, this is a terrible thing, to non collectors, it is meaningless. Cheers, RickO
Erasmus loathed Martha due to her rejection of his proposal of marriage. He also hated her pet parrot because it mocked him. This coin reminded Erasmus of her and her dumb bird, so he took his frustration out on the coin.
(This is my hypothesis)![:D :D](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/lol.png)
Dwayne F. Sessom
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The thread title has a false premise. The person who did this didn't do it to a "rare coin". When he did it, it was only pocket change which was worth only face value.
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I guess back then without radio, television, telephones and such, people just got bored.
Pete
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He lost it in a divorce settlement and didn't want his wife to have it in good condition...![B) B)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/sunglasses.png)
The coin also looks like it was scrubbed with a brillo pad or baking soda.![:) :)](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
Or maybe his wife found it before the divorce settlement?
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