GTG 1975 D Cent REVEALED

Coinscratch · April 13, 2023 3:27PM

MS64

SanctionII · April 13, 2023 3:30PM

67RD

MWallace · April 13, 2023 3:40PM

I agree. 67.
It sure is nice.

privatecoin · April 13, 2023 3:42PM

67 rd

Smudge · April 13, 2023 3:54PM

66rd

Coinscratch · April 13, 2023 4:28PM

For reference here is an MS66 that I had graded, not sure why other than it must’ve looked really good in hand.
I was still pretty green (2020) and didn’t yet realize a gash that size should’ve rendered a 64 so.

ThreeCentSilverFL · April 13, 2023 4:30PM

67 RD

gumby1234 · April 13, 2023 4:34PM

67 RD sounds right

cameonut2011 · April 13, 2023 5:15PM

67 rd

Shane6596 · April 13, 2023 5:44PM

I didn't peek at the other guesses and thought 66 or 67.

Is a nice coin.

ProofCollection · April 13, 2023 6:37PM

66 or 66+
There are a number of nicks and dings including one bad one on the rim. Most people here are saying 67 but 67's have very few flaws.

alaura22 · April 13, 2023 6:49PM

67rd

Coinscratch · April 13, 2023 6:59PM

Yea, I agree it is a great looking coin but... When held at angle, the hit on the cheek and the (a) dark line runs down the face and another one under the eyes, along with other little scuffs seems to appear and then disappear when viewed straight on.
I assumed the overall eye appeal would carry this one to 67 but... And especially when compared to the aforementioned MS66.

Before Pics

After

Comparison

Thoughts?

Coinscratch · April 13, 2023 7:04PM

Maybe PCGS tightened the screws a little bit.

ProofCollection · April 13, 2023 7:08PM

Yeah, the 64 is under graded IMO. I missed the marks on the forehead, I would have said 65. 64 is a bit harsh but the rim is not in good shape and that is a serious gash.
The 66 is very over graded and should be 63 or 64. I

Coinscratch · April 13, 2023 7:44PM

I bet a .99 eBay auction would garner more than the $12 Price guide. I may give that a shot rather than paying a resubmission fee.

coinbuf · April 13, 2023 8:51PM

Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

BuffaloIronTail · April 14, 2023 3:24AM

That grade stumps me.

But what do I know? I'm just a Private in this army.

Pete

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 5:03AM

@coinbuf said:
Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

Hearing that from you tells me maybe I should send her back. Quite honestly I had it at 67+ and would’ve been happy at 67.

ricko · April 14, 2023 5:03AM

My guess, prior to seeing the reveal, was MS65.... Surprised at a 64.. looks better. Cheers, RickO

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 5:09AM

Well anyway the MS68 in CoinFacts looks phenomenal and I think the skin on this one matches take away the imperfections cuts and scrapes.

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 6:03AM

@BuffaloIronTail said:
That grade stumps me.

But what do I know? I'm just a Private in this army.

Pete

I'm just a gunner looking to move up in the ranks . I was too young for Vietnam and too old for Desert Storm so I shouldn't complain.

coinbuf · April 14, 2023 9:32AM

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:
Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

Hearing that from you tells me maybe I should send her back. Quite honestly I had it at 67+ and would’ve been happy at 67.

I came in late after your revel, but my impression from the TV was MS66+ or better. Yes there are a few minor things going on and that one rim nick is noticeable, still, from the TV only I could very easily see that coin in a 67 holder. Now maybe there is more than the TV shows, I am not a fan of TV's for grading. And maybe it got downgraded for the slightly weak strike on the lower jawline/neck area, but that seems like one heck of a major net grade down to 64.

I'm not advising that you do anything with the coin, but I would send it to NGC and see what they say, a 67 in NGC plastic is worth way more than the PGCS $12 guide price for it as a 64.

And if you put it on ebay let me know, I'd buy it for the $12 guide price.

Steven59 · April 14, 2023 10:04AM

@Coinscratch - You were robbed on the 75 getting a 64! At least they got the RD right......

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 12:47PM

@coinbuf said:

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:
Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

Hearing that from you tells me maybe I should send her back. Quite honestly I had it at 67+ and would’ve been happy at 67.

I came in late after your revel, but my impression from the TV was MS66+ or better. Yes there are a few minor things going on and that one rim nick is noticeable, still, from the TV only I could very easily see that coin in a 67 holder. Now maybe there is more than the TV shows, I am not a fan of TV's for grading. And maybe it got downgraded for the slightly weak strike on the lower jawline/neck area, but that seems like one heck of a major net grade down to 64.

I'm not advising that you do anything with the coin, but I would send it to NGC and see what they say, a 67 in NGC plastic is worth way more than the PGCS $12 guide price for it as a 64.

And if you put it on ebay let me know, I'd buy it for the $12 guide price.

You'll definitely hear from me if it goes on the bay and once I find a better one. Where would you bounce out at; in said auction, $12, $13, $175.00?
TVs are for selling

Elcontador · April 14, 2023 1:07PM

Based on my experience with sending in a roll of 56-D RD Uncs., the 66 is all there color and eye appeal wise, except there are usually a few tics on the coin if you take the time to look for them.

coinbuf · April 14, 2023 1:08PM

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:
Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

Hearing that from you tells me maybe I should send her back. Quite honestly I had it at 67+ and would’ve been happy at 67.

I came in late after your revel, but my impression from the TV was MS66+ or better. Yes there are a few minor things going on and that one rim nick is noticeable, still, from the TV only I could very easily see that coin in a 67 holder. Now maybe there is more than the TV shows, I am not a fan of TV's for grading. And maybe it got downgraded for the slightly weak strike on the lower jawline/neck area, but that seems like one heck of a major net grade down to 64.

I'm not advising that you do anything with the coin, but I would send it to NGC and see what they say, a 67 in NGC plastic is worth way more than the PGCS $12 guide price for it as a 64.

And if you put it on ebay let me know, I'd buy it for the $12 guide price.

You'll definitely hear from me if it goes on the bay and once I find a better one. Where would you bounce out at; in said auction, $12, $13, $175.00?
TVs are for selling

I guess a TV is a selling point for some, not for me tho as I know they seldom represent the look of a coin in hand. Price, well I have two MS66's one P and one N, and honestly, they both look really nice but not quite as nice as your 64. But with two in hand I would not be the full retail buyer you would like to find. If auctioned in that holder I would be out at $20 with free shipping, not worth the gamble and hassle to pay more than that. If you can get it into a 67 holder there are registry buyers that would pay up for it, maybe even me, but how many grading gambles and how long are you willing to wait (from what I hear it is still months at PCGS for submissions) to try and get that 67.

ProofCollection · April 14, 2023 1:11PM

It will never go 67 with that severe rim ding.

coinbuf · April 14, 2023 1:20PM

@ProofCollection said:
It will never go 67 with that severe rim ding.

You should check the coin facts MS68 plate coin, real nice rim ding at 3 o'clock on the obv. MS67 is not a perfect coin and I'm sure that I can find multiple examples of MS67 graded coins with "issues" in just about every coin series and from every TPG.

ProofCollection · April 14, 2023 1:36PM

@coinbuf said:

@ProofCollection said:
It will never go 67 with that severe rim ding.

You should check the coin facts MS68 plate coin, real nice rim ding at 3 o'clock on the obv. MS67 is not a perfect coin and I'm sure that I can find multiple examples of MS67 graded coins with "issues" in just about every coin series and from every TPG.

That's a nick, whereas OP's is a full on ding - you can see the metal displacement. It's that ding in combination with the plethora of other nicks and marks (red) and hairlines (purple). That isn't to say that PCGS doesn't miss things or get things wrong every now and then. The coin facts 68 should be a 67 IMO.

This is what a real 67 looks like (2010-P MS67 coinfacts):

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 3:04PM

@ProofCollection said:

@coinbuf said:

@ProofCollection said:
It will never go 67 with that severe rim ding.

You should check the coin facts MS68 plate coin, real nice rim ding at 3 o'clock on the obv. MS67 is not a perfect coin and I'm sure that I can find multiple examples of MS67 graded coins with "issues" in just about every coin series and from every TPG.

That's a nick, whereas OP's is a full on ding - you can see the metal displacement. It's that ding in combination with the plethora of other nicks and marks (red) and hairlines (purple). That isn't to say that PCGS doesn't miss things or get things wrong every now and then. The coin facts 68 should be a 67 IMO.

This is what a real 67 looks like (2010-P MS67 coinfacts):

Apples to oranges if that 2010 had a better strike it would’ve easily hit a 68 but as such it reached 67 because the surfaces are almost perfect.

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 3:18PM

@coinbuf said:

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:

@Coinscratch said:

@coinbuf said:
Are you sure that there was not a screwup and the tags were reversed? No chance that is a 64, not even close.

Hearing that from you tells me maybe I should send her back. Quite honestly I had it at 67+ and would’ve been happy at 67.

I came in late after your revel, but my impression from the TV was MS66+ or better. Yes there are a few minor things going on and that one rim nick is noticeable, still, from the TV only I could very easily see that coin in a 67 holder. Now maybe there is more than the TV shows, I am not a fan of TV's for grading. And maybe it got downgraded for the slightly weak strike on the lower jawline/neck area, but that seems like one heck of a major net grade down to 64.

I'm not advising that you do anything with the coin, but I would send it to NGC and see what they say, a 67 in NGC plastic is worth way more than the PGCS $12 guide price for it as a 64.

And if you put it on ebay let me know, I'd buy it for the $12 guide price.

You'll definitely hear from me if it goes on the bay and once I find a better one. Where would you bounce out at; in said auction, $12, $13, $175.00?
TVs are for selling

I guess a TV is a selling point for some, not for me tho as I know they seldom represent the look of a coin in hand. Price, well I have two MS66's one P and one N, and honestly, they both look really nice but not quite as nice as your 64. But with two in hand I would not be the full retail buyer you would like to find. If auctioned in that holder I would be out at $20 with free shipping, not worth the gamble and hassle to pay more than that. If you can get it into a 67 holder there are registry buyers that would pay up for it, maybe even me, but how many grading gambles and how long are you willing to wait (from what I hear it is still months at PCGS for submissions) to try and get that 67.

I don’t believe in it enough to send back in to maybe get a 66 or seven or maybe not. If I wanted a 67 I would’ve just bought one in the first place.

But it was interesting to see the guesses that are known to be conservative already which is why I then mentioned possibly selling.

It could be interesting would call it a test dummy to see how much the dummies would be willing to pony up

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 3:27PM

@coinbuf
For the record, 40 days from start to finish, regular sub.

Coinscratch · April 14, 2023 3:32PM

@ProofCollection
Just happens to be the next coin on that order, a zinc MS 67 even with a weak reverse and a gouge.

ProofCollection · April 14, 2023 3:37PM

@Coinscratch said:
@ProofCollection
Just happens to be the next coin on that order, a zinc MS 67 even with a weak reverse and a gouge.

Right, but I don't see many other nicks or marks. OP's is loaded with marks PLUS the rim gash.

coinbuf · April 14, 2023 5:33PM

@ProofCollection said:

@coinbuf said:

@ProofCollection said:
It will never go 67 with that severe rim ding.

You should check the coin facts MS68 plate coin, real nice rim ding at 3 o'clock on the obv. MS67 is not a perfect coin and I'm sure that I can find multiple examples of MS67 graded coins with "issues" in just about every coin series and from every TPG.

That's a nick, whereas OP's is a full on ding

In hand I don't think that rim nick on the OP coin would be any worse than the 68 coin. Yes, as I said the OP's coin does have some busyness going on, but I have seen worse in 67 holders. You cannot compare the 60's and 70's coins with a coin minted recently, just too different. I think with the right connections, right submitter and situation that is, the op coin could get a 67 grade. It would not be a top example of the grade but yes it could get there, luster is the top priority at PCGS and the op coin has that covered.

GTG 1975 D Cent REVEALED

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