GTG 1844 Large Cent...Grade revealed.!

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RLSnapper
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edited April 5, 2023 7:05PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I have been waiting on an 1844 for a long time. I hate hesitating on pulling the trigger on this coin but want some educated eyes on it first. GTG and let me know your overall opinion of this Cent. Thanks for your help. I had it as MS62..a few small patches of oxidation on the obverse. I guess it got a 1 point color/eye appeal bump. Reminds me of my 1846 Small Date MS64.



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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Such a beauty!
    My problem with grading these via a photo is I look at this cent and think, "MS63 all day long"!
    Then I look again and think. . . "is this possibly an AU coin?!"
    I am terrible at determining other than to state it is lovely and scarce so well preserved.

  • dsessom
    dsessom Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My initial thought is MS64BN. Whatever the actual grade, that is a real beauty! I really like early copper that is mostly brown with some red peeking out.

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  • Shane6596
    Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice looking! Looks MS.

    I'm naming it Lava Coin. Looks like it came from a volcano.

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AU55 but possibly graded as AU58 or MS62.

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  • Jimsokay
    Jimsokay Posts: 119 ✭✭✭
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    AU-55

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tough to say without coin in-hand but if the breaks in luster over LIBERTY and above the ear are rub, then I could see it in a 58 holder, if not... then MS62. Also, it's a more difficult date (1840-44) in the Late Date run to find nice.

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  • jesbroken
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    MS63BN Obverse is RedBrown but I think the Reverse would hold it to Brown. The coin pretty much matches Photograde's MS63. Nice coin regardless.
    Jim


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  • hbarbee
    hbarbee Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭
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    1. If it is graded/priced as such it may be a good deal for you. If it is graded/priced around 63, then I would wait for another.
  • jughead1893
    jughead1893 Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    62.I would keep looking.

  • robec
    robec Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My guess is AU55, but these are tough for me.

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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58, or 62.
    I have a late date recently graded with slightly sharper details that came back 58….but I had submitted it as I’d seen similar coins grade 62/63.
    Regardless I like this coin, and as pointed out, it’s a tougher date to find in nice condition. It’s a date on my upgrade list, and there aren’t many I need!

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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @291fifth said:
    AU55 but possibly graded as AU58 or MS62.

    I'm in this camp 🏕 as well

  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Au55

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  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 35,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have dabbled with a date set, and I suppose the 1844 might be hard to get.

    These coins that some to have mint red, but then have dull fields, leave me baffled. I can't really buy them from pictures because you don't really know what's left of the mint luster. Mint red means less to me that to most collectors, because it can come out of bottle and be gone in a few months.

    Here's the kind of Mint State large cent I like. This looks under graded to me as an MS-63, Brown.

    This 1846 is graded AU-55. It only cost me $110. If I could do the whole late date set with these, I'd be satisfied, but not ecstatic

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  • dunkleosteus430
    dunkleosteus430 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I also guess 55.

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  • streeter
    streeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's not an MS coin and may have been played with.

    Have a nice day
  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58

  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Jumping on the bandwagon: 55 but graded 63.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • Batman23
    Batman23 Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm another that is trying to figure if it is AU or MS. I lean more towards AU58 but wouldn't be surprised at MS63.

  • rays
    rays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2023 5:26PM
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    62 but could be in a 63 holder if luster is strong.

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    58

  • NickelMike
    NickelMike Posts: 195 ✭✭✭
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    55 or 58 for me

  • hbarbee
    hbarbee Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭
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    As mentioned in my earlier post, I would not pay a MS63BN price for that coin.

  • ricko
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    @RLSnapper ... Very nice old copper.... Did you finally buy it?? Cheers, RickO

  • RLSnapper
    RLSnapper Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ricko It's new inventory so I am going to wait a bit then see if I can negotiate a better price. The dealer wants MS63 money and the consensus opinion is it is not worth MS 63 money. I like the look but don't have to have it now. It would be my most expensive coin in my set so I will wait and see.

  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Typical AU/63 thing yet again. I'm out at anything near 63 money


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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2023 11:55AM
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    I like the color better in the added pics, but now the scratches near star 2 are more evident.
    Oops that’s a different coin Lol!

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wait a minute... two different dates in the OP... a 1844 and new images of an 1846 showing scratches at star two... whud'up??

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  • RLSnapper
    RLSnapper Posts: 582 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have the 1846....it's PCGS MS64BN. I was just commenting that the 1844 reminded me of the 1846 color wise.

  • logger7
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    A nice catch!

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @logger7 said:
    A nice catch!

    Both.

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