What would you grade this 89 CC?

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goldrealmoney79
goldrealmoney79 Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
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Obviously details due to the cleaning and hit on the cheek, however I am wondering what type of details would she grade at?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/266198273798?

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  • LJenkins11
    LJenkins11 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm no Morgan specialist even though I have a few but those letters look too perfect. As in the wear on the obverse doesn't seem to reflect the wear on the reverse. Is it fake? If it's real I'd say VF35 but the coin seems off, the hair detail looks too good. It's not in a holder and it's the CC key date.

  • 7Jaguars
    7Jaguars Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fake, looks wrong. Struck matte-like appearance. Compare hair detail for example to Heritage slabbed or other "legit" examples. Eagle breast off, then look at how well struck the rims are! On and on.....

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  • Kliao
    Kliao Posts: 5,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not a genuine 1889CC so no grade, will be in a body bag.

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not a guess- a modern counterfeit.
    And the hit on the cheek makes it a damaged modern counterfeit.

  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 990 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Doesn't accept returns! I'd be very hesitant on bidding. Way too many fakes on the market.

    The real question to ask is whether I can afford to lose $400+. If details grade doesn't bother you then go for an already certified details grade. There's several certified details VF under $1400.

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  • SPCTR
    SPCTR Posts: 9 ✭
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    Counterfeit - the hair, lettering, mintmark, and especially the rim (12 o'clock on the reverse) all look way off

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ( The real question to ask is whether I can afford to lose $400+. )

    Why would he lose 400$? Ebay's refund policy is heavily weighted in favor of the buyer.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • burfle23
    burfle23 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Doesn't match the known VAMs for mm location, etc:

    Does match the bad 1881-CC reverse.

    And the seller just ended the auction...

  • jclovescoins
    jclovescoins Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FAKE

  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's been pulled. Good thing.

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  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Seller did the right thing. (for now, at least). good job folks.

  • Tramp
    Tramp Posts: 990 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Steven59 said:

    ( The real question to ask is whether I can afford to lose $400+. )

    Why would he lose 400$? Ebay's refund policy is heavily weighted in favor of the buyer.

    Reason for return? 30 days are ticking.

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  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good job Mark @MFeld


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  • ricko
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    Listing pulled... Good work by @MFeld.... Now we can wonder what will happen to this item. Cheers, RickO

  • Che_Grapes
    Che_Grapes Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ricko said:
    Listing pulled... Good work by @MFeld.... Now we can wonder what will happen to this item. Cheers, RickO

    Don’t worry there is always itsy

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2023 12:15PM
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    @Che_Grapes said:

    @ricko said:
    Listing pulled... Good work by @MFeld.... Now we can wonder what will happen to this item. Cheers, RickO

    Don’t worry there is always itsy

    Did you mean “Etsy” or were you speaking of the “Itsy Bitsy Spider” nursery rhyme?

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