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GTG... 1809 Bust half .. .. ..Revealed

jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 30, 2023 4:59PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I think this one is a bit tricky personally..


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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    F12; agree this one is tricky

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll stick with my first guess, which we did over PM yesterday.

    I called her Fine, with a capital F! What a gorgeous circulated example!!

    F12


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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. Very weak strike for the obverse central area. But decent detail elsewhere and the reverse. After comparing with the PCGS Photograde I'll guess F12 as well.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,113 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG08 obverse with a F12 Reverse, so probably VG08. Not familiar enough with Capped Bust Halves to know the strike strengths/weaknesses for the various years which might affect the grade.
    Jim


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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vg10

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I’m trying to guess the TPG grade I’m going to say they gave it an 8 because my experience is that they don’t properly adjust for striking weakness caused by cracks or die bulge.

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    vg10

    Tom

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I couldn't go above VG with that obverse.

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12

    107a is such a cool variety.

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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, someone has to be the optimist here. F15. :)

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pnies20 said:
    F12

    107a is such a cool variety.

    Goal is to get a good number of the coolest die states in my current set, so I won't be turning up my nose at lower grade examples... particularly when they have a nice look like this one.
    As far as 1809 goes though, I'm hoping to find a nice 109b!

  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG-10, let's see if PCGS accounted for strike weakness or not...

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool circ half, I'm at 8/12.

    If there was such a grade, that's mine.

  • TrampTramp Posts: 705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 30, 2023 2:41PM

    Nice cameo effect on obverse. Is that a die break? I'm going with an overall VG10.

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tramp said:

    Nice cameo effect on obverse. Is that a die break? I'm going with an overall VG10.

    Yep, the cool die break makes it a fairly popular variety.
    The reverse has what I think are 2 or 3 rows of clashed dentils under America and arrow heads... these kind of "tracks" seem to be an 1809 thing, other marriages have their own versions as well 🤔

  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VG10

    mirabela
  • mtn_scoutmtn_scout Posts: 101 ✭✭✭

    VG10 or F12 based on descriptions in the ANA grading standard. Very nice!

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:
    Cool circ half, I'm at 8/12.

    If there was such a grade, that's mine.

    The posters who went with this concept nailed it IMO.. as did every other guess actually..
    I had a very choice VF20 at one point with about the same amount of detail..
    After taking a good look at at it, I graded this one $200.
    The seller graded it a little bit higher..😄
    PCGS graded it as you would expect..

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TPG undergrading is starting to get on my nerves. It is so common with this type. I had it at F-15. Not quite VF.

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hear ya @jacrispies... although it goes both ways.
    Bummer when it's your own raw coins you sent in... not so bad when you find nice coins in slabs that are undergraded 😄

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    Look at the eyelid; buy as many as possible that look like that at VG08

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well... I thought F15... I get optimistic down in this area I guess... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jayPem said:
    I hear ya @jacrispies... although it goes both ways.
    Bummer when it's your own raw coins you sent in... not so bad when you find nice coins in slabs that are undergraded 😄

    Totally agree! That aspect adds to the thrill of the hunt, as long as you know what to look for :)

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
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