That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.
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@RLSnapper said:
That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.
Nice trime, LM. I always found the mintmark hard to notice, as it was so big it appeared to be lettering.
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@RLSnapper said:
That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.
It looks like the dies were rusted, causing lumps on the coin near the shield. I see pitting near STATES OF, as well as light corrosion on the rims and elsewhere.
My initial thought was XF-40. I can see it being higher than that after second look. I do like that this was the only mintmarked trime. Such an oddity in the run and a nice semi-key date to go hunting for.
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XF40 - has wear on two points of the obverse shield (K7 and K10). Reverse is a skosh better - only the diamond has wear. The low relief orbs are weak strike not wear.
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What people are calling a "rim ding" on the obverse at 12:00 and a "scrape" on the reverse rim at 6:00 might actually be neither. It could be a small planchet flaw that affects both sides at same location.
The coin just arrived and is nicer in hand. There's a trace of luster not seen in the photos. I'd almost call it "semi-prooflike", though that is perhaps a stretch. It is also whiter in hand than seen in the large photos above.
@dcarr said:
What people are calling a "rim ding" on the obverse at 12:00 and a "scrape" on the reverse rim at 6:00 might actually be neither. It could be a small planchet flaw that affects both sides at same location.
It's not a clip, but it is possible that the scrapes on the obverse were on the planchet before it was struck. The rim is pretty soft in general, but particularly opposite that mark.
Not to hijack the thread, but this is what a clip looks like on this issue.
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I'll guess AU-55
Nice coin... I will guess AU55.... Cheers, RickO
XF45
AU53. Isn't it great to see a coin nearly 175 years old surviving and looking so nice.
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That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.
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XF Details, damaged @ 0600 rev.
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Nice trime, LM. I always found the mintmark hard to notice, as it was so big it appeared to be lettering.![:p :p](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/tongue.png)
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I grade it awesome milord.
I'm in AU50 camp.
It looks like the dies were rusted, causing lumps on the coin near the shield. I see pitting near STATES OF, as well as light corrosion on the rims and elsewhere.
If rim allows straight grade, AU55
AU 53, it’s a popular coin and the minor issues are magnified due to the blown up images.
What a cool pick up, 50.
Caveat emptor... I suck at grading these things... my first impression was AU55 due to the rim, but it wouldn't shock me to see it in an MS holder...
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AU53 if the rim issues at 12' obv/ 6'rev don't details it.
I might need to add a 51-O to my want list.
My initial thought was XF-40. I can see it being higher than that after second look. I do like that this was the only mintmarked trime. Such an oddity in the run and a nice semi-key date to go hunting for.
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Congrats on your pickup. To me it looks like it should be in a AU50 holder
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XF40 - has wear on two points of the obverse shield (K7 and K10). Reverse is a skosh better - only the diamond has wear. The low relief orbs are weak strike not wear.
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What people are calling a "rim ding" on the obverse at 12:00 and a "scrape" on the reverse rim at 6:00 might actually be neither. It could be a small planchet flaw that affects both sides at same location.
The coin just arrived and is nicer in hand. There's a trace of luster not seen in the photos. I'd almost call it "semi-prooflike", though that is perhaps a stretch. It is also whiter in hand than seen in the large photos above.
It's always nice when the coin looks better than expected. Congrats on your new addition.
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It's not a clip, but it is possible that the scrapes on the obverse were on the planchet before it was struck. The rim is pretty soft in general, but particularly opposite that mark.
Not to hijack the thread, but this is what a clip looks like on this issue.
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I always liked this date and mm 3 cent silver. Congrats! Great purchase especially in AU 58! AU 58 coins are very easy to sell!
Maybe not so much, if you overpaid for them like I did on this and other recent purchases. But over time…
I didn't say "easy profit". I said "easy sell". Overpay? Even if you overpaid at least you have it, will be happy with it and enjoy it. To me the enjoyment trumps out the overpayment. I overpay for lots of things, especially if I have been searching for a long time for just the right coin.