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Newp/GTG: 1851-O trime

lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 29, 2023 1:01AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Always wanted an 1851-O. Now I have one!

Guess the grade and/or comment as you see fit.



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    1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

    Have a good day, Gary
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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess AU-55

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin... I will guess AU55.... Cheers, RickO

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    jerseybenjerseyben Posts: 114 ✭✭✭

    XF45

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    TrampTramp Posts: 652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53. Isn't it great to see a coin nearly 175 years old surviving and looking so nice.

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    RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

    Mr_Spud

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    LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF Details, damaged @ 0600 rev.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2023 6:37AM

    @RLSnapper said:
    That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.

    Nice trime, LM. I always found the mintmark hard to notice, as it was so big it appeared to be lettering. :p
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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I grade it awesome milord.

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    Riley1955Riley1955 Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    I'm in AU50 camp.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RLSnapper said:
    That's a pretty heavy rim ding at E in States. Some pitting just right of the shield. Scrape at 6 o'clock on the reverse. Old NGC holder I am guessing makes it NGC AU50. I always liked the placement of the O mintmark on these trimes.

    It looks like the dies were rusted, causing lumps on the coin near the shield. I see pitting near STATES OF, as well as light corrosion on the rims and elsewhere.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
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    dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 361 ✭✭✭

    If rim allows straight grade, AU55

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 53, it’s a popular coin and the minor issues are magnified due to the blown up images.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a cool pick up, 50.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Caveat emptor... I suck at grading these things... my first impression was AU55 due to the rim, but it wouldn't shock me to see it in an MS holder...

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 if the rim issues at 12' obv/ 6'rev don't details it.

    I might need to add a 51-O to my want list.

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    The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial thought was XF-40. I can see it being higher than that after second look. I do like that this was the only mintmarked trime. Such an oddity in the run and a nice semi-key date to go hunting for.

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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on your pickup. To me it looks like it should be in a AU50 holder

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,681 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61


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    dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 471 ✭✭✭✭

    I've never tried to grade these, but my first thought was 50.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NIce! XF45?

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40 - has wear on two points of the obverse shield (K7 and K10). Reverse is a skosh better - only the diamond has wear. The low relief orbs are weak strike not wear.

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    Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grade doesn't matter, i'd buy it even if it's in a details holder, just because it looks so dang cool. ;)

    Problem with trimes, in hand, they look like a thumbtack to the naked eye. :D

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What people are calling a "rim ding" on the obverse at 12:00 and a "scrape" on the reverse rim at 6:00 might actually be neither. It could be a small planchet flaw that affects both sides at same location.

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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 3, 2023 8:29AM

    The coin just arrived and is nicer in hand. There's a trace of luster not seen in the photos. I'd almost call it "semi-prooflike", though that is perhaps a stretch. It is also whiter in hand than seen in the large photos above.


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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's always nice when the coin looks better than expected. Congrats on your new addition.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one! You're on a roll lately! B)

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    What people are calling a "rim ding" on the obverse at 12:00 and a "scrape" on the reverse rim at 6:00 might actually be neither. It could be a small planchet flaw that affects both sides at same location.

    It's not a clip, but it is possible that the scrapes on the obverse were on the planchet before it was struck. The rim is pretty soft in general, but particularly opposite that mark.

    Not to hijack the thread, but this is what a clip looks like on this issue.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are the toughest coins to grade.

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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always liked this date and mm 3 cent silver. Congrats! Great purchase especially in AU 58! AU 58 coins are very easy to sell!

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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    AU 58 coins are very easy to sell!

    Maybe not so much, if you overpaid for them like I did on this and other recent purchases. But over time…


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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lordmarcovan said:

    @rec78 said:
    AU 58 coins are very easy to sell!

    Maybe not so much, if you overpaid for them like I did on this and other recent purchases. But over time…

    I didn't say "easy profit". I said "easy sell". Overpay? Even if you overpaid at least you have it, will be happy with it and enjoy it. To me the enjoyment trumps out the overpayment. I overpay for lots of things, especially if I have been searching for a long time for just the right coin.

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