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Joseph Hooker 1863 Merriam

Hi,

Recently acquired via part of a larger Civil War era collection of other memorabilia. Seasoned coin collector but wasn’t exactly sure what this was but research indicates that it’s fairly rare. It’s been interesting looking into the entire JH Merriam history in addition to the whole CWT world.

Thanks - fishingfund

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know but that sure is a nice looking token! 👍🏻 👍🏻

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So he’s a major hooker? I’d love to join him at his home for Thanksgiving! There are Hooker’s all around the table! 😉

    Steve

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2023 4:44AM

    @Fiahingfund... Welcome aboard. Nice old CWT... Major Hooker, primarily remembered for his resounding defeat by Confederate General Robert E. Lee at Chancellorsville. Cheers, RickO

  • ShurkeShurke Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭

    Secondarily remembered for giving us the widespread use of the vernacular term “hooker” thanks to his methods of keeping his troops entertained.

  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2023 5:29AM

    @Fiahingfund said:

    Seasoned coin collector but wasn’t exactly sure what this was but research indicates that it’s fairly rare.

    It's fairly rare, most likely, because General Hooker wasn't very popular, even with his own troops. He was known as a drunkard and womanizer, often having parties in his quarters. The term "Hooker" used to describe a prostitute came from the fact that General Hooker often employed them! (No joke!)
    He was defeated by General Lee, and resigned his command more than once. One positive noteworthy event in his life is that he led Lincoln's funeral procession. Sadly, he suffered a stroke and was paralyzed less than a year after Lincoln's funeral and was forced to retire.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,372 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dsessom said:

    @Fiahingfund said:

    Seasoned coin collector but wasn’t exactly sure what this was but research indicates that it’s fairly rare.

    It's fairly rare, most likely, because General Hooker wasn't very popular, even with his own troops. He was known as a drunkard and womanizer, often having parties in his quarters. The term "Hooker" used to describe a prostitute came from the fact that General Hooker often employed them! (No joke!)
    He was defeated by General Lee, and resigned his command more than once. One positive noteworthy event in his life is that he led Lincoln's funeral procession. Sadly, he suffered a stroke and was paralyzed less than a year after Lincoln's funeral and was forced to retire.

    A group of prostitutes followed Hooker's troops and the newspapers jokingly called this group of prostitutes "Hooker's army". Later, was shortened to just hookers.

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Merriam had a short series of medals to commemorate Civil War generals. Among them are McClellan, Kearny, and Hooker. They're all relatively scarce pieces. He struck them in copper and tin, which was oftentimes silvered. I don't know of any legitimate silver striking, but they may exist. In the DeWitt sales, a McClellan medal was sold as a silver medal but without testing it may prove to be silvered white metal.

    Nice medal. Nobody quite like Merriam!

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the boards. Very nice example.


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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sense a collecting theme - Merriam's CW generals.

  • tokenprotokenpro Posts: 884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @Fiahingfund... Welcome aboard. Nice old CWT... Major Hooker, primarily remembered for his resounding defeat by Confederate General Robert E. Lee at Chancellorsville. Cheers, RickO

    Just to be clear, the Hooker piece is a period medal commemorating the Union Civil War generals but it is not a Civil War Token (CWT) as recognized and cataloged by the Civil War Token Society. Merriam did strike some Civil War tokens but as mentioned by DCW above, this is part of one of Merriam's medal series.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one of these in slightly worn condition. The late Steve Tannenbaum told me it was one of the poorest known, but the grade is AU-50. Most of the known examples are Mint State. Supposedly there are 10 to 20 of these known. Most Merriam items were made in very limited quantities, and this piece is no exception.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I have one of these in slightly worn condition. The late Steve Tannenbaum told me it was one of the poorest known, but the grade is AU-50. Most of the known examples are Mint State. Supposedly there are 10 to 20 of these known. Most Merriam items were made in very limited quantities, and this piece is no exception.

    I miss Steve. We did a ton of business with him in CWTs


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:

    @BillJones said:
    I have one of these in slightly worn condition. The late Steve Tannenbaum told me it was one of the poorest known, but the grade is AU-50. Most of the known examples are Mint State. Supposedly there are 10 to 20 of these known. Most Merriam items were made in very limited quantities, and this piece is no exception.

    I miss Steve. We did a ton of business with him in CWTs

    So did I.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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