Walker before I buy question
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I'm sick of making mistakes. I am considering buying this piece hoping it has some nice color.
It's $90 delivered.
What is your opinion.
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I think you’re going to be disappointed. It looks ugly to me (and I love toned coins). Generally speaking you aren’t going to find nice color on a $90 Walker unless the seller really doesn’t know what he/she has.
I wouldn't
Looks AT and close to terminal... Nasty stuff on reverse.... Looks as if it were super dipped prior to AT and not rinsed properly. Cheers, RickO
At best, it is toning that has gone too far from an improperly rinsed dip. At worst, it is AT.
Either one would be a pass for me.
Late date Walkers, really most Walkers, do not come with great toning. White luster or luster with a little toning is the rule.
I have never had "toner disease." Unless you are wealthy and very patient, it's best to try to curb it if you can.
The obverse is too terminal and lacks any real color. The reverse is looking like it has a spot on it rather than toning. Unattractive. I would pass.
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Pass. For a little more money, you can get much nicer coins, already slabbed.
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If you like it, that’s all that matters.
I would NOT buy that coin.
If you are sick of making mistakes, why don't you stick with only buying PCGS and NGC certified coins? That won't eliminate your chances of making a mistake, but it will certainly minimize them. For added security and peace of mind you could stick with PCGS / NGC coins that have CAC stickers. Do that for a while until you learn to grade and spot problem coins yourself.
This is what I was thinking as well.
Hard pass
That is also what has been recommended previously.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Okay thank you
From what I can see, the obverse screams artificial toning. Look at the purples and blues down by the date. Couple those with the golden coloration and you have what is most likely a heat treated coin. Also the black staining on the reverse is a major negative. Stay far away from that coin, especially at that price.
Edited to add: purple/blue/gold don’t always mean AT. But from my experience the only coins I see that color combo on and it being natural is modern proofs.
Almost certainly AT.
Tom
I think the toning on that coin is suspect and way too dark. And I like dark coins. In my experience with toned walkers you're going to have to pay up. They're out there but they're not nearly as common as toned Morgans and other series so they tend to fetch a solid premium. Like others have said stick to the PCGS/NGC coins. CAC isn't a requirement in my opinion but it is a bonus.
Some of mine from my short set:
PCGS/CAC MS64
NGC/CAC MS66
PCGS MS66
PCGS/CAC MS65
PCGS/CAC MS66+
Toning on coins seems to be like looking at art. Each person will have a different opinion. Beauty is in eye of beholder. Something drew you to this coins look.
Question back to you is, are you asking if toning is real or if coin is worth $90?
If you're asking if people like it, you will get 100 different answers. Do you like the coin?
I don't know if it's real or AT, but i personally don't like the look of the coins obverse. Just my opinion.
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Don’t buy it if unsure. Don’t. Both obv and rev really horrible. A real dog!
Frankly I think it’s really ugly and ruined by tarnish, etc. we can speculate all day about what caused it but a dog is a dog.
Everybody knows coins can go bad in the holder, etc due to reaction to the atmosphere. This coin has been exposed to whatever for a long time.
Many coins if held for a long time will eventually need a dip. Some probably every 3 years depending on the environment. Remember any grade on any TPG coin is a point in time. If it changes in the holder due to the atmosphere, heat, humidity, salt air - all bets are off.
Yes there are people who are toner hobbyists but I am not one of them.
Frankly if the seller started it on the Bay at melt I doubt he would get much more than that. Does he offer returns lol?
Okay thanks guys.
It will probably be way darker in hand
Yuck.
Artificial toning to try to get moon money from a generic dipped out AU coin. Run away my friend.
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I understand your frustration.
I too, fell victim to the toned Walker.
At last year's Chicago ANA Show. I submitted a Walker that I thought was a gorgeous Walker Toner?
Looks Beautiful, right?
NOT!
NGC gave me the dreaded words that all coin collectors hate to see or hear, "Artificially Colored"!
Yep, It didn't even cross my mind on this one?
Oh well?
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Since then, I cracked it out and dipped it!
It looks beautiful. I'll show it sometime soon, it's somewhere in my inventory.
Thanks
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I'm not a fan of toning, so I wouldn't touch it. Even a fan of toning likely would think that that is an ugly coin.
Regarding the advice to stick to certified coins: While I agree that buying certified coins is a safe way to go, it's also true that most 20th century coins (and most Morgans) are common, even in high grades, and not expensive. I like having coins in an album, being able to see them all at once, easily, without the distraction of the slab.
My walker collection is funny; it's a mix of certified coins (all of them through 1928, and a smattering after that), and raw, shiny-uncirculated coins after 1928 (I won't buy a raw coin that cost more than about $150, and avoid certified coins that cost less than $100). I think it's pretty, and I'm not taking a big risk buying raw coins from reliable sources who allow me to return a coin I don't like. To make the album look good, given the large number of slots taken up with certified coins, I fill those slots with nice, shiny JFK halves.
If you like a coin, and the price is right, buy it. But if you have to ask us if you like the coin, you don't like it, and you shouldn't buy it.
I am not one for toning, so this would be a pass for me, and I would give it a wide berth.
Pass at that price.
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@Watchtower, if this is the sort of coin that tempts you, the problem is deeper than the appearance of this single coin.
Try to figure out a way to see hundreds of Walkers in person. Attending a bigger show in person is the best, but a big coin shop would be OK, in places where they still exist.
Hard Pass -- looks AU and AT to me.
For $90, you could buy one that's Mint State and graded already, such as this;
Dwayne F. Sessom
Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
It would be a bad deal at that price - you should be able to buy a 64 for that amount or less.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld I totally agree! I see 63's and 64's at or near that price point all the time. I just used this quick example. I think the OP might be more interested in the toning than the coin itself? I'm not sure.
Dwayne F. Sessom
Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
Very hard pass!
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In later to the party but was going to say exactly the same thing. Well, maybe I wouldn’t have been so kind in my assessment of the coin’s aesthetics.