1805 bust half with a large cud. Super interesting and a little frustrating (here's why)
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When I saw this, I couldn't snap it up fast enough. The cud on this variety is extremely rare and highly sought after. This is one of those frustrating things to where viewed by the naked eye, it looks basically gradeable and original enough. Only when you take the pics and use a loupe do you see the porosity over parts of the obverse. Now, being an early copper nerd, this doesn't bother me much at all. In fact, I greatly would prefer this problem over some cleaned coin or a dipped out circulated blast white coin any day, but that's just me.
Comment, enjoy, or hate it. The choice is yours.
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
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Nice! I haven't seen that variety before. Also, I haven't seen a draped bust half that I didn't like.
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I could live with that, no problem at all!
Its exactly like you said, if it was bright, harshly cleaned, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it either.
Very cool cud
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The porosity wouldn't bother me too much if the price was right...
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That is an interesting retained cud that gets a little more pronounced with each strike.
Congrats, nice pickup! O-104a. Very rare.
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@opportunity.... Nice coin... I could be happy with that one... Old coins, those that served their purpose in commerce, come with related issues.... Gives them character and makes them interesting. Cheers, RickO
im glad you snapped that one up. like ya said, its one of them you dont see very often
I'm in agreement! Nice pickup and cud.
Great pickup.
I think with the two digs- one on the obverse and the other on the reverse it may not have straight graded anyway.
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Neat cud! I’ve never seen this one!
Very cool pickup. 👍
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I would love to see the progression pictures!
The best I can do is to show the progression with Coinfacts pics. I have the Russ Logan example which has a heavy crack but no cud, not pictured.
Slight crack first image and then retained cuds. Tompkins says the final stage is a full cud at S11-12, and the rest is a retained cud.
The last image is the latest die stage but has full dentils on reverse side, so it could not be a full cud at that point. I think the OP coin is between the second and third pictures.
Found these at HA. The first one is in the HA description as 104a but I did not check/verify it. I also did not check to see if any of these are the same as the coinfacts examples above. I tried to put them in order and hopefully got the links matched up.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-damaged-anacs-xf-details-net-vf20-o-104a-r4-this-is-a-pleasingly-original-example-with-a-warm-blanket-of-olive/a/271-6532.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-corroded-cleaned-anacs-fine-15-details-o-104-ngc-census-24-357-pcgs-population-22-209-mintage-211-7/a/67053-23460.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-o-104a-t-10-high-r6-fine-15-pcgs-pcgs-39276-/a/1279-3646.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-cleaned-anacs-vf30-details-o-104a-ngc-census-20-152-pcgs-population-31-147-mintage-211-722-numismed/a/1108-8480.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-o-104a-t-10-r6-gouged-pcgs-genuine-vg-details-from-the-founding-fathers-collection-of-bust-halves/a/60233-91044.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-o-104a-t-10-high-r6-vg8-pcgs-pcgs-39276-/a/1271-3627.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-dollars/half-dollars/1805-50c-fine-12-anacs-pcgs-6069-/a/454-1355.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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1805, a great year for breaking dies..
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Prefer it way more than a blast white scrubbed coin. Congrats.