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1893-CC Morgan missing "C"?

Hello all - long time lurker mainly on the card side, recently picked up a 1893-CC Morgan. I noticed that the first C in the mint mark is extremely faint. Is this just a normal filled die or a known variety? I figure NGC would've noted as such but thought I'd ask here. Thanks!


  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Not a known variety, just a grease filled die. ;)

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are seen every now and again. I think it was an over polishing of the die, as it shows up pretty often. Should have a Vam but it does not. I've owned one in about the same grade. If I remember right there is another CC with the same issue but for the life of me can't remember the date. Perhaps 92? Grease filled die makes sense, though too. Maybe even more sense as the polishing would have likely affected both C's not just one. Nice coin.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), [email protected]
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bstubby... Welcome aboard. It does look like a grease filled die, compounded by further wear.... Cheers, RickO

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely should be a Vam.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "Gold is the canary in the financial coal mine." (Alan Greenspan)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Definitely should be a Vam.

    Not if it's grease.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CC buyers want bold CCs. In my opinion, something like this would cause a reduction in value.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,255 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it is VAM-4 on which this can sometimes be found. We sold one a while back, I will see if I have the pic


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  • Riley1955Riley1955 Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    It seems I learn something new every day since joining. Thank you to all.

  • Wow savoy, the first C on the coin you linked to looks completely missing. Very cool! Has anyone seen a mint-state example of a missing "C"?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a couple of mint state examples from CoinFacts, the amount of fill on the C varies.

  • conrad99conrad99 Posts: 300 ✭✭✭

    Not long ago a Morgan with a letter missing from the motto passed across my desk. I figured it was PMD but now I think it must have been GFD.

    Not to be confused with GPD, which I also have.

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