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New pictures: Is this an error? 1900 morgan

PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 8, 2023 9:23AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Please see the eagles breast on the reverse. I have never seen anything like it before.
Is this a lamination issue?
If not, is it an error?
If not, what could have caused this?

The marks onto cheek are awlful.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first guess is that something whacked the coin after it was released by the US Mint. However, someone with a deeper knowledge of VAMs should be able to give a more thorough answer.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a lamination to me.

    When in doubt, don't.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DennisH said:
    Looks like a lamination to me.

    On second thought, I think this is more likely than my suggestion.

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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ppp 'Please see the eagles breast on the reverse. I have never seen anything like it before.'

    I have not either.
    I will throw out another possibility - another piece of metal or planchet was struck into the coin. It seems close to be able to see an outline all the way around it. Of course this could have been a planchet flaw like a peeling planchet and then struck into the coin. Also note the change in surface color to the lower left (?). I don't know but just throwing out another guess. Here is a side by side with one with a similar strike.

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  • PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    lilolme: thank you for the side by side pictures.

    I believe what ever happened to this coin occurred at the mint. Hopefully, someone else has seen something like this before.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a small lamination to me. ;)

  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 842 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a lamination. Impurities in the metal caused the silver to not "adhere" together and resulting in the metal "flaking."

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So does closer examination reveal an edge of lamination peeling? If not maybe the color change could be indication of an improper alloy mix. A pup is the slanted date to denticles, IMO. Check your focus, it could be improved. Good luck. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, it is more likely a struck through.... perhaps a random metal shaving or similar material. Cheers, RickO

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know how anyone can form an accurate opinion from the image provided. I for one am not even sure it's an error and not PMD. Better, well focused images of the area in question would be a help.


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  • PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    I took pictures from a different angle by turning the coin on its side.
    I hope these pictures are better to see detail of the error on the eagles breast.
    To me it looks like lamination error ad the metal is flaking.
    And other ideas?

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you sure that isn't some remnant of a mounting?


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  • @Ppp
    Whatever it is please don't get too excited. It's interesting for sure but it's not worth anything especially in that grade. It's a 90% silver cleaned morgan with a small lamination error, possibly.
    Still neat and thanks for sharing.

  • PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    Watchtower: thank you. I am excited if it is a lamination error just because I never had one before. I am realistic and if it is I didn’t expect it to be worth much, just cool to have.🙂

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the photos, I'm not sure it is an error for sure either. From what I can see... that is a raised lump? If it was a lamination, wouldn't it show some of the imprinted design, and be rather flat? If it is not raised, but sunken, then perhaps a strike through?

    Try some acetone on it? residue of some sort?

    ----- kj
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But hey..,.. I'm no expert! Just a life long student always trying to learn!

    ----- kj

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