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1794 Large Cent, Which "head"; 1793, 1794, or 1795??

Piano1Piano1 Posts: 233 ✭✭✭

Since I can't determine which "head" this well-worn 1794 cent displays, may I appeal to you large cent experts out there for an opinion, please? I can't see the shape of the bottom curl (worn away) on my coin. I don't see any indication of a "pole" as in the 1794 head variety, the 1 in the date seems to be touching the bottom of the hair which I also don't see in either "head" in the link below. Are there any other indicators that I am overlooking that would make this project less confusing?

Once I know which head I'm looking at, maybe I can find a variety that has a curl pointing up to the middle of the "opening" of the cap. This is fun, but sometimes I burn out my little brain trying to figure it out. Currently, I'm smelling smoke! 😮 (Wait till I try the reverse!) The coin is an AG at best according to PCGS grading standards with the wreath and a lot of lettering visible on the reverse but faintly so.

Thanks.

Piano1

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Large+cent+varieties&fr=yhs-iba-syn&type=asbw_8923_CHW_US_tid30026&hspart=iba&hsimp=yhs-syn&imgurl=https://www.usacoinbook.com/us-coins/1794-liberty-cap-large-cent-varieties.jpg#id=0&iurl=https://www.usacoinbook.com/us-coins/1794-liberty-cap-large-cent-varieties.jpg&action=click

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  • basalstatebasalstate Posts: 71 ✭✭✭

    I cannot answer your question but love the coin!

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well it’s not head of 93…

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2023 5:00PM
    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    Head of 1794. Looks like it could be a Sheldon-22(bent 6th lock).

    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would just be happy to have a 1794 cent... ;) Would not matter which 'head' I had... Just so long as it was visible. Just the way I feel about those old coins. Cheers, RickO

  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko here is one I picked out for you. Head of 1794. Plenty of detail and nice and smooth. I know you would want it raw...feel the history in your fingers. Damn...I might have to get one myself!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RLSnapper ... That is a nice one indeed.... Where was that one?? Cheers, RickO

  • Piano1Piano1 Posts: 233 ✭✭✭

    Wow...so many great replies to my inquiry about the 1794 cent. You all are the best. as always, thanks! Now, being one that loves Rarity scales, (I have a lot of resource books here and managed to find rarity numbers, where appropriate for most of my early U.S. type set. Unfortunately, I sold my Penny Whimsey years ago (found it too difficult for my little head). Fully trusting the opinions shared on this topic, may I ask where I can find a listing of Sheldon varieties Rarity Scale ratings... or is there even such a thing? I'd like just to know for my small collection of type cents as only 1 ANACS slab that I have indicates
    this. The coin I posted here is not from my type set but from a box of minor stuff I bought and I think it is worthy of better attention and care. Not sure of its next destination yet.

    RLSnapper. I sincerely hope you get a 1794. I am fully on board with loving the feel of history in my hands...but for my collection, I jumped on the "slab wagon" many years ago. I don't trust my grading skills THAT much and knowing a coin is authentic is certainly a good thing. Sure is hard to read the date on the 1794 cent you posted but a wonderful coin indeed. Fascinating stuff. I can see the 9 (which almost looks like an 8) but the rest looks alien to me. 🙄

    Thank you all!!!! Piano1

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RLSnapper.... OK, thanks. Looked at it.... I like the obverse, but there is virtually NO detail left on the reverse. I would like a bit more there. Thanks again, Cheers, RickO

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not turn this into a Liberty Cap large cent thread. :D This one is pretty toasty, but it is quite rare.
    1795 lettered edge.

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2023 11:58AM

    @Piano1 - worth it to buy a book. This one is a handy reference:

    https://amazon.com/Guide-Book-Cents-Large-Official/dp/0794843166

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • Piano1Piano1 Posts: 233 ✭✭✭

    Hello, Ownerofawheatiehorde. As a type coin lover and long-time collector, I must admit to your skills of detection as to recognizing what the 1795 lettered edge cent in your photo even was! Congratulations on your sharp eyes. On first glance, I thought it was either a badly corroded "something" or a large cent on an extremely poor-quality planchet. (I believe that the British were very good about shipping crappy planchets over to the new U.S.A. For some odd reason, Birmingham, England rings a bell as a source of those planchets.) I'm probably wrong but again...great recognition work! Now that I know what it is, I can see the design but I would have had to study it for quite a while before I could have made the connection.

    Piano1

  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    Piano 1, your S-22 is R-1 on the rarity scale.

    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • Piano1Piano1 Posts: 233 ✭✭✭

    BigMoose, thanks for identifying the Rarity level of the Sheldon 22 1794 cent, and thanks also to Bill Jones a first identifying this as a Head of 1794 and matching the S-22 "diagnosis". All comments on my thread have been much appreciated.

    I am fascinated with Large Cents but at age 72, am sticking to my U.S. type type set which already has a large cent of the same type as the 1794. I think the one I posted here will wind up on E-Bay. Again, thanks for the help! I wish I was 50 years younger (and rich!). I could really get into the large cents. Also love early half dollars but not like Overton did! 😄

    BigMoose, I tried to get a look at your large cents at www.coingallery.org but I was told that the site can't be reached.

    Thank you all.

    Piano1I

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