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1900 Barber Half GTG *grade revealed*

kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭
edited February 17, 2023 10:24AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I have the below and was wondering what the consensus was of the members here on the grade. Pics to the best of my ability.


2nd set taken as requested. Camera seems to really pick up the scratches on the plastic.


I'll let this run a day or two before revealing the actual grade.

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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 64+ Very nice coin

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2023 1:33PM

    The obverse photo seems to show some rub on the cheek, but the reverse looks pristine. Likely technically a 58. But guessing NGC gave it a bump for the nice eye appeal.
    62 is my guess based on what I can see, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was higher.
    I really like that coin!

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  • JW77JW77 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful surfaces, I'm not adept at seeing rub from pics, so I'll go MS65

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 361 ✭✭✭

    Something wrong with those pictures; can you post better photos?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's an AU58, but have seen apparently similar coins graded MS62.

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  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    @dhikewhitney said:
    Something wrong with those pictures; can you post better photos?

    2nd set posted but not sure if they are any better.

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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photos aren't that bad honestly. High graded Barbers are SO hard to grade correctly, but knowing it's an NGC plastic, I will take a stab and say MS64 with a star.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the look of this half. MS62?

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A very decent looking MS62. The high points seem to have picked up some light friction, possibly from clear album slides rubbing across the coin.

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  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 361 ✭✭✭

    MS65

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2023 3:44PM

    Nice eye appeal regardless of grade. The luster looks very good. The toning looks original. A few marks, but nothing very distracting. If there is high point rub, it is very slight.....Tough one....I could go 58+, or 63+/64. Overall, it's a pretty Barber half!!!

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see that as an AU, at all ... in fact it looks like it would garner a Choice Unc grade, so I'm in with the 64 crowd (oh, wait, am I alone?!).

    Nice Half! <3


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  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful Barber. No wear and full luster. Nice toning. Some slide marks on the cheek from an album keep it from 65...NGC 64.

  • Riley1955Riley1955 Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    Newbe goes with a 64.

  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 with that splash of color along the rim area.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm seeing some slide marks or hairlines which would hold the coin back into the lower MS grades, otherwise looks like a gem.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overall a nice coin. MS-63

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go MS64.

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  • I'm going to guess MS65. From what I have learned, nowadays eye appeal factors into grade and this coin has it.
    I'm reluctant to go against Tom's eye as he called it AU. Pictures can definitely be misleading but I will stick with Mt guess.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 Very nice!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin looks like an MS63 to me.... Cheers, RickO

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58+

    When in doubt, don't.
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Belongs in a 64 holder at the minimum, nice piece.

  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    Grade revealed above and here. Appreciate the input from everyone. Grades were all over the map from AU-58 up to MS-65 with the majority appearing to be in the 63/64 range. I personally thought it would warrant a 64 but some of the more educated eyes here spotted things I had not. Not sure if it would upgrade or cross to our sponsor, or even CAC for that matter. Looking at the guide prices, not even sure it's worth a shot unless it could hit 65 which I now highly doubt. Thanks again for the input and the education.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin!

  • Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice coin. Keeper.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kirkmink said:
    Grade revealed above and here. Appreciate the input from everyone. Grades were all over the map from AU-58 up to MS-65 with the majority appearing to be in the 63/64 range. I personally thought it would warrant a 64 but some of the more educated eyes here spotted things I had not. Not sure if it would upgrade or cross to our sponsor, or even CAC for that matter. Looking at the guide prices, not even sure it's worth a shot unless it could hit 65 which I now highly doubt. Thanks again for the input and the education.

    I thought I was a little harsh at 63 so 62 is a surprise. I see no major distracting marks that knocked it down to a 62. The eye appeal with toning is high in my opinion, better than the typical 62 I see. The difference in price between 62 and 63 may not warrant the expense of crossing it but unless there is something I'm not seeing in the photo the eye appeal would is high for a 62 coin.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think is a splendid example of an AU62….. a coin that is technically an AU, but with eye appeal equal or superior to most lower-end MS examples. Like it or hate it, strict criteria concerning “rub” is no longer part of the graders rule book.

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic: I think @TomB’s post explains the eye appeal conundrum.

    Higashiyama
  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    I am used to seeing MS-62 Morgan’s that look like they were blasted with a shotgun, so this being a 62 even with the slight rub mentioned by others baffles me.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tks for reveal. It’s really nice.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late to the game, but my first thought was NGC 62. But that coin should be graded 58+.

    Tom

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wondering if it is hairlined to get that 62 grade. Seems like the kind of coin I've seen them do that with.

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