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Help me grade this 1903 McKinley gold $1

SametsSamets Posts: 164 ✭✭✭
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So I purchased this McKinley $1 gold coin housed in a PCI holder. I bought the coin and not the holder and need some help grading it... It's very lustrous and super small and I'm having a hard time coming up with a grade...

What would you grade this at?

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  • SametsSamets Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    Here's a better attempt at the pictures of this little guy...

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Samets ... The pictures are really to dark for an accurate analysis.... It does appear to be in the MS range. Better pictures - more light - will be necessary. Cheers, RickO

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damaged, Unc. details.

  • SametsSamets Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    How about now?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The piece has some marks and most definitely not Mint State.

    I am concerned that it was mounted at one time. The edges have the look that it has been removed from some sort of a ring that held it.

    These coins were sold at the fair fair mounted in spoons and other sorts of holders. I am guessing this may have been removed from one. If the reeding is mess up on the edge, that is a strong clue.

    Here is one that is in a PCGS MS-64 holder. It has a P-L like surface, which is the reason I bought it.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not MS, ex-jewelry

    bob :)

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That sure is a real nice, obscure coin.

    Don't see many floating around.

    Pete

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what is going on the edge at 10'oclock on the obverse? did it have a mount removed? are there reeds?

    I am leaning AU details ex-jewelry

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we see the PCI slab label? I'm curious to see how they graded it.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    Here is one that is in a PCGS MS-64 holder. It has a P-L like surface, which is the reason I bought it.

    Is this one of the four that PCGS states is PL in their population report?

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, @DisneyFan, it only has that look.

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  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I know where you bought this coin. It was PCI 63 right? I just wonder if the obverse scratch will merit a details grade.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    I think I know where you bought this coin. It was PCI 63 right? I just wonder if the obverse scratch will merit a details grade.

    Good question. Lots of coins have scratches, what pushes them over the line so they are not straight graded?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one, Bill! 👍

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    No, @DisneyFan, it only has that look.

    Bowers in his Commemorative book states many commemorative gold coins coins are prooflike; yet very few have been labelled by the grading services.

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