no photo yet. i recently read about francis henning. the article said the 1939 nickel was only minted WITH a mint mark. yet the the listings of every year show one was minted without. which is true. have a 39 with no mint mark on my desk.
A normal nickel of the time will weigh 5 grams, but Henning Nickels weigh 5.4 grams. So I guess the best way to tell is to weigh it, if you have gram scale.
As to the mint mark - that only applies to war time nickels. (1942-1945)
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@neiltor said:
no photo yet. i recently read about francis henning. the article said the 1939 nickel was only minted WITH a mint mark. yet the the listings of every year show one was minted without. which is true. have a 39 with no mint mark on my desk.
I think/hope you misread the article as that information is incorrect.
Genuine 1944 nickels all had a mintmark (large size, above Monticello). Henning 1944 counterfeits have no mintmark.
Genuine 1939 nickels come with or without mintmarks (small, to the right of Monticello). Henning 1939 nickels do not have any mintmarks.
If you are worried about focusing in on the lack of a mintmark, I'm sorry to say you've got a normal nickel. No picture needed, the Henning Counterfeit will weigh more, not less. As has been stated, all 1939 nickels from Philadelphia are struck like this.
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Then it's not a Henning. One of the diagnostics of a Henning nickel is that it's overweight. I think 5.5 grams is the number. Definitely well over the normal 5 grams.
@Shane6596 said:
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
@Shane6596 said:
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
Wow, images of the fakes of a fake?
So you've never seen a real, fake, genuine, counterfeit? 🤣 😂
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@Shane6596 said:
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
Wow, images of the fakes of a fake?
i got a little crazy with the fake, faking. I think i faked myself out. Couple adult beverages and my thoughts go astray.
@Shane6596 said:
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
@Shane6596 said:
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
Wow, images of the fakes of a fake?
So you've never seen a real, fake, genuine, counterfeit? 🤣 😂
@OAKSTAR said:
Forget the Henning nickel. Check for this.
Actually Henning nickels bring more then the 1939DDR in lower grades. These is no such thing as a BU Henning nickel, they were minted to appear circulated.
@OAKSTAR said:
Forget the Henning nickel. Check for this.
Actually Henning nickels bring more then the 1939DDR in lower grades. These is no such thing as a BU Henning nickel, they were minted to appear circulated.
I know. The OP's 1939 Jefferson nickel has a much better chance of being a DDR then being a Henning.
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Actually Henning nickels bring more then the 1939DDR in lower grades. These is no such thing as a BU Henning nickel, they were minted to appear circulated.
If I remember correctly, Daniel Carr posted an uncirculated Henning once -
Actually Henning nickels bring more then the 1939DDR in lower grades. These is no such thing as a BU Henning nickel, they were minted to appear circulated.
If I remember correctly, Daniel Carr posted an uncirculated Henning once -
Perhaps one that he made, but none of the originals.
Henning nickels were indeed struck to appear circulated, but that doesn't mean that they're aren't any uncirculated examples. This is because Henning copied a circulated Jefferson to prepare the die itself, and the result was VF-ish looking coins. But the coins weren't messed with after the fact, so they can be thought of as Uncirculated. Just hard to differentiate between them.
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Is there a question? Do you maybe have a photo?
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Yes , No or Maybe
Pick the answer you like best.
I like it! Great coin. Looks like a small cud on the reverse.
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no photo yet. i recently read about francis henning. the article said the 1939 nickel was only minted WITH a mint mark. yet the the listings of every year show one was minted without. which is true. have a 39 with no mint mark on my desk.
There are alot of fakes of the henning nickel. You will need pics and someone here to look them over to determine if its a true fake or a faked fake.
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A normal nickel of the time will weigh 5 grams, but Henning Nickels weigh 5.4 grams. So I guess the best way to tell is to weigh it, if you have gram scale.
As to the mint mark - that only applies to war time nickels. (1942-1945)
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i think they're talking about the mint mark d or s to the right of the building.
none of them have a mintmark, anywhere
@neiltor ... According to the MegaRedbook, 7th Edition, there were 120,615,000 minted without a mint mark. Cheers, RickO
Regular Philadelphia coins also lack a mint mark. It's absence means nothing.
I think/hope you misread the article as that information is incorrect.
Genuine 1944 nickels all had a mintmark (large size, above Monticello). Henning 1944 counterfeits have no mintmark.
Genuine 1939 nickels come with or without mintmarks (small, to the right of Monticello). Henning 1939 nickels do not have any mintmarks.
It could be?
Pic for the thread for posterity.


like to show a close up photo of a 1939 nickel however my phone will not focus that close. how do you guys do that? it weighs only 4.17 grams
If you are worried about focusing in on the lack of a mintmark, I'm sorry to say you've got a normal nickel. No picture needed, the Henning Counterfeit will weigh more, not less. As has been stated, all 1939 nickels from Philadelphia are struck like this.
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But still how do you focus in close on a coin.
I switch to manual mode on my phone cam or the flower closeup mode. You might need to tweak some settings in those modes to get good focus.
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Forget the Henning nickel. Check for this.
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Personally, I back off from the item and then zoom in.
When using your camera and the coin is shown in the center of your screen, touch where the coin shows on the screen and it should focus to that depth
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Then it's not a Henning. One of the diagnostics of a Henning nickel is that it's overweight. I think 5.5 grams is the number. Definitely well over the normal 5 grams.
Wow, images of the fakes of a fake?
So you've never seen a real, fake, genuine, counterfeit? 🤣 😂
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Props for not titling the thread "Henning Nickle."
Some have taken a picture through a large magnifying glass ... others use a camera for photos, not a phone.
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Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Actually, I have, just not of a "Henning"...
im new to this site. need a tutorial? don't know what threads means. how do i end a conversation?
This is a thread.
You cannot end a thread/conversation.
Actually Henning nickels bring more then the 1939DDR in lower grades. These is no such thing as a BU Henning nickel, they were minted to appear circulated.
I know. The OP's 1939 Jefferson nickel has a much better chance of being a DDR then being a Henning.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
I wonder if he was "Henning Pecked" by his wife.
Pete
If I remember correctly, Daniel Carr posted an uncirculated Henning once -
A couple of mine:
Perhaps one that he made, but none of the originals.
Henning nickels were indeed struck to appear circulated, but that doesn't mean that they're aren't any uncirculated examples. This is because Henning copied a circulated Jefferson to prepare the die itself, and the result was VF-ish looking coins. But the coins weren't messed with after the fact, so they can be thought of as Uncirculated. Just hard to differentiate between them.
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I just got this 1944 back from ICG this week.


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I read that as Herring. Like the fish. My bad.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.