Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

First i have 2017A series $100.00 that i think has an error and maybe a 2015 nickel error

the C-note has the security strip exposed where shouldn't and the strip has paper pieces trapped under it. and right i of Jefferson
has maybe a long die chip running down from it. need insight on both pieces.





thanks

Comments

  • Options
    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome. Nice pictures. I’m not the expert but the nickel seems to have something going on. The currency could be posted on the currency forum but there’s folks here who can help. Again, welcome.

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • Options

    thanks, yeah that occured to me after after i had posted them both here.

  • Options

    lot of what appears to be extra metal with those thick raised edges. looks off from say the scratch on his cheek.

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin... Welcome aboard. I cannot help with the $100 bill, but the nickel has Post Mint Damage (PMD) and no numismatic premium. Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if you take a knife you can replicate your damaged nickel

    try the currency forum for the Franklin $100

  • Options
    dgmartindgmartin Posts: 18
    edited February 7, 2023 6:56PM

    if you could post the pic where you replicated it, i would lke to see it. thx

  • Options
    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    if you could post the pic where you replicated it, i would lke to see it. thx

    Are you saying you disagree with the assessment of simple damage? If you do disagree then perhaps you can explain just how this happened during the minting process, we would love to learn from your expertise.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Options

    already did that

  • Options
    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭✭

    The $100 note looks like it’s damaged and torn away from the strip. The nickel is damaged and not an error.

  • Options
    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    already did that

    Really where? I see you asking a question but I do not see anywhere that you provided an explanation of what this "error" you see is.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Options

    die crack donating die chips.

  • Options
    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2023 7:23PM

    @dgmartin said:
    [ ]

    As you can see it's the same type of metal displacement damage under the eye from a deep scratch as it is to the right of his cheek and into the hair - same type of damage.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Options
    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    lot of what appears to be extra metal with those thick raised edges. looks off from say the scratch on his cheek.

    A die chip would not have a valley between the ridges. It's a scratch with a sharp object. Like a plow in the soil, it raises metal on either side of the blade.

    Here, I made you one.


  • Options

    metal way more on the eye, on the note im wondering how the paper got under the strip.

  • Options
    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two questions ? ( 100 note, since you and I are here )
    Does the strip break, like this one shows, or am I just not aware of this practice ?
    On the bottom of the strip away from the printed image, in the border, near the cut, on the front, what is that spot ?

  • Options
    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    die crack donating die chips.

    Well first a die crack would be raised not recessed into the surface of the coin, and I have been collecting for 40 years but I have never heard of a die crack donating die chips, lol. The stuff you read on the internet.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Options

    the strip should be inside the paper at this point but its showing

  • Options
    dgmartindgmartin Posts: 18
    edited February 7, 2023 7:30PM

    look at the blue strip on a normal note u will see 3 gaps

  • Options

    you have never heard of a die chip on a coin? your kidding right?

  • Options
    jeffas1974jeffas1974 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭

    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=178248

    This quite old thread on another forum covers the exact same issue with the $100 bill.

  • Options
    dgmartindgmartin Posts: 18
    edited February 7, 2023 7:38PM

    your getting way to excited about someone with a disagreement. im not saying anything is correct or not just playing devils advocate. thats how we learn. peace bro

  • Options

    thanks for the link. already sold it, but ill have a look

  • Options
    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just for giggles, please check any and all water marks on both sides.
    I'm researching another matter, and it could help.
    Are all water marks in order, on the 2017 A, 100 dollar note ?
    Thank You.

  • Options

    die cracks are where die chips come from.

  • Options

    the note is legit all other security features are present.

  • Options
    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank You, Bubba .

  • Options
    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Your nickel has a cut (PMD) as mentioned by other members, it's not a die crack. ;)

    The link jeffas1974 posted seems to explain the $100 note, torn and folded back rather than under the strip.

  • Options
    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    die cracks are where die chips come from.

    Not really. Die cracks are die cracks. Die gouges and die chips are different. All are damage to the die. None of them look like your scratched Jefferson. It is PMD, whether you are advocating for Satan or not.

  • Options
    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    die cracks are where die chips come from.

    You may want to start over and learn from a respectable source, you're not even close.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • Options

    cracks chip off.

  • Options
    dgmartindgmartin Posts: 18
    edited February 7, 2023 10:34PM

    didn't say it was a cracked die mentioned it as a possablity. and yes die cracks can chip off.

  • Options
    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    didn't say it was a cracked die mentioned it as a possablity. and yes die cracks can chip off.

    Sorry to be blunt... Either listen to the experts or move on. The people that have responded to you have been studying coins for probably collectively over 100 years... That's just between the ones who have already responded. They know what they are talking about.

    I've only been at this for a little over 6 months and even I can tell you that is post mint damage, such as a sharp instrument, that created that scratch. It is not an error except by human hands long after it left the mint.

    You should do some more studying on what die chips and die cracks are so you can better tell them apart.

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    cracks chip off.

    No, they don't.

    Laminations can break off, but this isn't one.

  • Options
    FrazFraz Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    ….die cracks can chip off.

    You can crack a chip, but how should you chip a crack?

  • Options
    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fraz said:

    @dgmartin said:
    ….die cracks can chip off.

    You can crack a chip, but how should you chip a crack?

    It is possible that crack is involved.

  • Options
    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    didn't say it was a cracked die mentioned it as a possablity. and yes die cracks can chip off.

    But they don't call that a chip.

    Either way, none of those things leave a ridged furrow. A knife does that.

  • Options
    jedmjedm Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dgmartin said:
    thanks for the link. already sold it, but ill have a look

    My guess is you got $100 for it. Have fun bruh!

  • Options
    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All this talk of chips is making me hungry. I know what I'm having for lunch. :p

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file