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Long Beach show observations

Long Beach not quite what it once was even short time ago. just attended. ( have been since 1964) as a young teenager
Larger card section. more Jewelry dealers. No NGC attendance anymore( disappointing to many)
Anacs Not taking submittals. Confusion again with check in. folks there trying but not trained.
Had Earlybird privilege as a Platinum Member and Registry member and They could not give me the right badge as they were not aware of that even though I gave them My Authorization email from PCGS. The Guards kept stopping me from early entry. I get tired of arguing with them. Three shows in a row now same thing UGH!

PCGS Please FIX THIS!.

On the better side. the addition of the theater presentations on Friday was a winner. Parking was good and easy.
Expert reviews is another good thing. Nice wide aisles and banner marked. Convention Hall is nice with tables to sit at. There is nice a place to work on your PCGS submittal rather than hold up submitters in line. Dealer overhead table signage though was hokey hand written and some hard to read.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sorry you had these issues, but I found last week's Long Beach Show to be the best I attended in quite awhile. I am sorry re your check in issues, as don't come as an early bird and did not have to deal with this.

    NGC not attending is a relatively new phenomenon, and I don't deal with ANACs. I saw more really amazing material last week and spoke with more of the smartest people in the room while there than I have done in the last five years. Plus, for the first time in six years, I actually saw something I liked, and yes, I bought it.

    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not have the same problems you did gaining early entry. Once I showed them my email they gave me the pass with no issue. Maybe they worked out the kinks after your initial problem.

    I have been slowly moving away from US coins and getting into world. Long Beach has. Variety of dealers with world coins so I had fun. This was the first time in a long time that I left the show with new purchases. It was a disappointment that CRO was not there but I knew that going in so it was not a surprise.

    I agree with the signage gripe. I thought witter coin was Stacks!

  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My early entry worked perfectly. I had the opportunity to talk at length with Doug Winter, David McCarthy, and John Dannreuther. I was able to submit my coins for grading. I got to lot view coins. I purchased three coins from my list including the keystone coin of my collection (which is a very scarce and not inexpensive coin).

    I agree with you that there was a lot more sports card and jewelry dealers then a coin person might expect. There were three tables of stamps and a year ago there was only one.

    I hope the next time you have the experience you're looking for but my experience was overwhelmingly positive.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @krueger said:
    Long Beach not quite what it once was even short time ago. just attended. ( have been since 1964) as a young teenager
    Larger card section. more Jewelry dealers. No NGC attendance anymore( disappointing to many)
    Anacs Not taking submittals. Confusion again with check in. folks there trying but not trained.
    Had Earlybird privilege as a Platinum Member and Registry member and They could not give me the right badge as they were not aware of that even though I gave them My Authorization email from PCGS. The Guards kept stopping me from early entry. I get tired of arguing with them. Three shows in a row now same thing UGH!

    PCGS Please FIX THIS!.

    On the better side. the addition of the theater presentations on Friday was a winner. Parking was good and easy.
    Expert reviews is another good thing. Nice wide aisles and banner marked. Convention Hall is nice with tables to sit at. There is nice a place to work on your PCGS submittal rather than hold up submitters in line. Dealer overhead table signage though was hokey hand written and some hard to read.

    Have you contacted show personnel to make management aware of the issues you encountered? Whatever your chances of that helping, they’re probably greater than posting “ PCGS Please FIX THIS!.” here.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that ANACS wasn’t taking submissions. Why were they there?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, this is really the first negative report on Long Beach that I have read here. I agree with @MFeld, take your issues directly to the people who can address them for you. A general forum post is unlikely to be effective. Cheers, RickO

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you buy any coins?

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Working on my Long Beach report, hope to have it out there today. As for the early bird check-in, I also had the PCGS email and had no issues getting my badge. Must have been good timing.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2023 12:17PM

    Well any deals there?

    Any wholesalers there? Any pickups from walk up sellers if you took table. How much were MS64 Saints going for? Any Mexico Libertad silver 1 oz?

    Anybody selling BU Mexico silver 50c? How much?

    Able do good retail if had table? Able buy stuff right?

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2023 12:40PM

    @MFeld said: Have you contacted show personnel to make management aware of the issues you encountered? Whatever your chances of that helping, they’re probably greater than posting “ PCGS Please FIX THIS!.” here
    @ricko said: I agree with @MFeld, take your issues directly to the people who can address them for you. A general forum post is unlikely to be effective

    I wholeheartedly agree with the two posts above, but......................I am curious why this same response isn't elicited with the multitude of threads about the USPS and shipping as well as PCGS turn-around times that clog up the pages. Is it OK to complain about one but not the other?? Curious minds want to know.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:

    I wholeheartedly agree with the two posts above, but......................I am curious why this same response isn't elicited with the multitude of threads about the USPS and shipping as well as PCGS turn-around times that clog up the pages. Is it OK to complain about one but not the other?? Curious minds want to know.

    I can't speak for Mark and Rick but...we may actually have a chance of affecting policy or procedures re: show entry. There are only a few people who handle those logistics That is unlikely with grading backlogs and an impossibility when it comes to the USPS.

  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i think we all have coinspergers disease.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought the show was very lackluster. Show was not very crowded Thursday when I was there. A lot of the bigger dealers from the east coast were not there. Like the OP said a lot of sports card and jewelry dealers. Heritage auction associated with the show was mediocre at best. The Long Beach show in the last ten years has definitely gone down hill. Nevertheless I still enjoyed myself socializing and looking at coins. If I didn’t live close to the show I probably would not go out of my way to attend.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    @MFeld said: Have you contacted show personnel to make management aware of the issues you encountered? Whatever your chances of that helping, they’re probably greater than posting “ PCGS Please FIX THIS!.” here
    @ricko said: I agree with @MFeld, take your issues directly to the people who can address them for you. A general forum post is unlikely to be effective

    I wholeheartedly agree with the two posts above, but......................I am curious why this same response isn't elicited with the multitude of threads about the USPS and shipping as well as PCGS turn-around times that clog up the pages. Is it OK to complain about one but not the other?? Curious minds want to know.

    I didn’t say it was Ok to complain about one, but not the other.

    With respect to the lack of a similar response to posts about PCGS - my guess is that someone from PCGS is more likely to see a post about PCGS here, than that Long Beach show management is to see one about their show.

    If I were to see a similar post about the USPS and it ended with (“Please FIX THIS,”) I’d probably reply “I think it’s highly unlikely that the USPS will see your post.” Also, I think the chances of reaching and making progress with Long Beach show management are significantly greater than doing the same with the USPS.

    If people want to complain, that’s their prerogative. But if they really want to improve a situation, there are different and/or additional ways to try to accomplish that.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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