New Discovery?! Amazing 1860-O Seated Half Dollar Struck Thru Half Dime Planchet Mated Pair Error!!!
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This coin was just purchased raw on Jan 23, by Russ on VAMWorld and it's already been certified by PCGS!
It's one of those amazing finds that is hard to believe is still possible in 2023 but it is!
Is this coin known to the collecting community? Is there any known pedigree for this?
Read more on VAMWorld here:
Read more here: http://www.vamworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7264
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This reminds me of the JFK half dollar which is bonded and thus slabbed together!
I was curious that the Seated Half was in two slabs and this in one. Looking at the insert closer, this one is bonded together!
For a coin like these, do you think it's better to have them bonded or not bonded? Not that you have a choice
More on Mint Error News: https://minterrornews.com/features-1-15-23-unique-proof-kennedy-half-bonded-pair-with-struck-in-copper-planchet.html
That is awesome. And he found it in a coin shop from reading the link, correct? That makes it even more crazy.
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There will be a CoinWorld article about this coin coming out soon – it is absolutely a stunning error and the earliest known of its type that I’m aware of- saw photos of this on Monday and was gob- smacked!
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They're still goodies hiding out there. Amazing coin(s).
Wow.... Amazing how something like this surfaces after 163 years.... I hope the CoinWorld article gives the backstory on this one.... Cheers, RickO
That's one amazing error.
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Great to know! And glad you’re still in the hobby and on top of this!
I've known about this for a couple weeks now but didn't want to say anything. Spectacular error. I love it.
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An amazing discovery!
Find of the Century !
I was a fan of the pair the moment the images posted elsewhere.
I followed its image filled discovery on a member's only error coin site on January 25th 2023.
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That's pretty incredible!
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Unbelieveable! After all this time, it must have been laying in someones drawer tucked away for 150+ years. Wow. Not an error collector, but I would imagine this will become one of the most valuable error coins of it's kind. Congrats to whoever ends up with it.
Jim
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What a discovery!
It looks to also be a WB-2 "Weird Vertical Stripes" variety. Incredible-looking error.
How many of these indented mated pairs are known?
I also recalled @Byers had this one which is unique for being bi-metal and on a proof coin.
I hope this one ends up in a dual holder as well!
Great eye and info @LJenkins11!
Here are some closeups of the 9 star and the shield to compare!
It's owned by Russ James of Heritage Coins & Collectibles.
Also, looks like it won't be for sale, but a very nice coin to market his company!
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In a few instances back in the day I explored the smaller coin or in other instances smaller planchets to create this type of error.
For me they are fun to perfectly mate and un mate when raw:
Gallery Mint order circa 1996. Their Large 1c Struck thru a Flipped Over Mercury Dime. I made 2 of these sets, one pair I gifted to Fred Weinberg.
If I saw it out in the wild I would for sure have thought it was a fake and not bought it. Unbelievable error.
It is nice to see those amazing error coins. US Mint error coin price is the highest compare with other countries.
Absolutely wild!!!! I love the color - surfaces look very original. Certainly the find of a lifetime.
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Click through to the VAMWorld thread and you’ll see that some people didn’t think it was real.
I think it’s amazing when we have coins like this that show up and are so different that are hard to believe they are real!
Nice to have some surprises in the hobby!
At first sight the 1860 pair was a real deal boo boo for me, but I've been an error coin collector decades now.
I'd love to own the 60-O, however, if it were mine, I'd never sell it.
Some goodies are irreplaceable.
Some profits are not worth realizing.
Absolute stunner pair!
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This is a super awesome piece, that even us non error collectors can marvel at.
Hard to believe the two pieces stayed together for so many years, yet here they are.
Do you know if they were slabbed in a multi-holder?
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OP shows single consecutive s/n holders. Would have been a great dual holder set!
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this has to be Man made
PMD premeditated mint damage.
Legitimate mint error
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Ok but please explain how this can happen..... so hard to believe human hands were not involved?
I am not terribly interested in errors but this is the most interesting error i’ve ever seen!
Let me begin by saying that I absolutely love this pair! No question a legitimate major Mint error. I would be pleased and proud to own it.
And now, a major mystery. Look at the struck side of the Half Dime. Note the ring of peripheral toning near its circumference, typical of many a silver coin of the 19th Century.
On this Half Dime, much of the periphery is no where near the periphery of the half dollar. So how did those areas acquire peripheral toning?
TD
Incredible set, just wow! I've never seen this set before, but it's certainly one of the most incredible 19th century mint errors in my opinion.
Agree this is an incredible set and worth of consideration in the greatest mint errors!
Slight difference in the alloy mix? Maybe the two pieces were stored separately? I think you would need to know something about how/where it has been for the previous 160 years to be able to give a comprehensive answer to that one.
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I wonder if the crushing effect of the upsetting process changes the molecular structure of the metal near the rim in some way that affects its toning? Think about those Morgan dollar that have the shiny "doubling" outside the stars, the date digits and the lettering. In those cases metal was partially struck up into the stars, digits and letters and then dragged, kicking and screaming, out past the corners of those design elements where the outlines did NOT tone because their molecular structure had been changed.
TD
Holy Crap!
Was reverse O Mint die in the hammer position ?
Exactly....amazing. looking forward to the coin world story.
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I am pretty sure that the REV Die is the anvil position and the OBV is the hammer. I have been wrong before. Perhaps @dcarr could enlighten us?
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Traditionally, the reverse die is the anvil die. However, there are exceptions. The question is whether this is one of the exceptions.
Trivia question: How can you tell after the fact which die was the anvil die?
For some reason this looks familiar as I've seen it somewhere before in B&W.
Maybe in some mint error dealer listing from the 1970's?
I will have this mated pair at my table at the FUN show this Jan. Our table is in the same isle as PCGS. Heritage Coins & Collectibles if anyone wishes to see them in person.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was, and the ads would be amazing to see if it was!
I love going through old copies of type written catalogs from that time.
That's a great question @jonathanb! How can you tell which die was the anvil die after the fact?
what can I say, would love to own such a coin
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My best guess is very similar, but I suspect that the lighter crescent at the top of the half dime planchet is where it expanded beyond its original size and shape. And that the same effect is less pronounced closer to the rim because the collar constrained the expansion of the planchet to a greater extent near the rim than at the center of the dies.
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