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bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

I think new people coming to this forum should take at least one day to look thru threads and take note of those that offer information and knowledge to others that are posting. There are a lot of knowledgeable members here that are willing to help. It's sad when a new person comes here and slowly starts falling down the rabbit hole. Arguing against advice and slamming respected members for their comments. Eventually they see less and less members responding to their posts and wonder why. Sad!!!

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower said:
    I hope I am not considered to be one of them. I try to be respectful and understanding. I know that 95% of what is posted in response to my threads is to help me.
    Sometimes the harsh reality of things can be difficult to accept or understand. I want to enjoy this hobby and make some new friends along the way. If someone makes a wise crack I am able to ignore it or see the humor in it. I have been told and have also learned that forums can seem cold. Little emotion can be understood with written words but if I take the time to soak it in. I have come to an understanding that people are trying to help and educate people just coming into this hobby. I certainly would not want to be left alone to navigate these somewhat murky waters only to fall prey of more of what I already have. The insight I have learned from this group has been tremendous. I think this is a great group of people!
    Don't fight it, join in and participate.

    @Watchtower, Op is not talking about you, I promise 😂. There are a few active threads right from another newbie that acted like a child and started lashing out at the forum in his first threads. You have been respectful and well mannered in all of your threads. Click on the thread titled “this might be the score of a lifetime” or “mods please delete” and you’ll see why Boss Hog posted this.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my opinion, Bobby, the ones needing your advice, have no intention of taking it, as they are merely wanting to either show off some item they feel will impress the heck out of us, regardless of knowledgeable advice to the contrary OR(big or) they are simply trying to fire up those they know will go berserk over their parking lot finds or invisible errors.
    Your advice is great and I hope some read it and utilize it's wisdom.
    Jim


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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bsshog40 My thoughts exactly. My first visit to CU was to read various thread topics because I wasn't looking for a specific answer but rather to empower me to be a more competent coin collector and student of history. I continue to reap the benefits of digesting this knowledge. And have some fun along the way. Peace Roy

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I started this thread with no intentions of pointing a finger at all newbies. Merely a suggestion for those wanting to learn. There have already been plenty that have fallen too far and have disappeared. This thread is meant for those that can still pull themselves out and have respect for members and maybe regain respect from members again. And @Watchtower ,you are correct. People just need to take some of the comments and remarks without judgement. Knowledge comes in all forms of opinions. Some nicer and some harsher, but in the end it's all informative.

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably not practical but sometimes I feel there needs to be 3 categories within this forum; Novice, Mid Level and Expert.

    Again, not practical here but In a previous life, I had to take an on-line class and pass a test to gain access.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Probably not practical but sometimes I feel there needs to be 3 categories within this forum; Novice, Mid Level and Expert.

    Again, not practical here but In a previous life, I had to take an on-line class and pass a test to gain access.

    Ya, but then I'd be missing out on all the Mid Level and Expert info until I graduated. Lol

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🤣 😂 LoL!! Very true @bsshog40! You and me both!! LoL!!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its the newbies with attitudes. Like the ones that argue with everyone here and says they are wrong and that their parking lot coin is a rare and valuable error. Those are the ones we can do without and they usually disappear as fast as they appeared.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "search" feature works pretty good to see if any key words or phrases have been used in previous threads.

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Watchtower definitely not you bud. You seem eager to learn and are willing to recognize when you hit your head and try to learn. This is about the newbies trying to impress the pros here with their first or second posts. Many aren't here to learn but to show off. And that doesn't usually go well because they get defensive when they are given opinions here counter to their beliefs.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Its the newbies with attitudes. Like the ones that argue with everyone here and says they are wrong and that their parking lot coin is a rare and valuable error. Those are the ones we can do without and they usually disappear as fast as they appeared.

    I bet 50% of these or more are alts from a handful of trolls. 'tis the nature of Internet forums.

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    AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in the opinion that the internet is full of varying opinions that may differ from my opinion. There are much more things to worry about than the opinions I don’t like. That is my opinion on opinions.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bsshog40 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Probably not practical but sometimes I feel there needs to be 3 categories within this forum; Novice, Mid Level and Expert.

    Again, not practical here but In a previous life, I had to take an on-line class and pass a test to gain access.

    Ya, but then I'd be missing out on all the Mid Level and Expert info until I graduated. Lol

    And who would administer the test?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AlanSki said:
    I’m in the opinion that the internet is full of varying opinions that may differ from my opinion. There are much more things to worry about than the opinions I don’t like. That is my opinion on opinions.

    You're wrong. 😉

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think writing grandiose thread titles like “deal of a lifetime” guarantee a bad start on a forum with experienced collectors and dealers. Having a little humility is a good thing whether one is a newb or a seasoned forum participant.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
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    NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for this. This is really great advice. I am new(ish), and I can remember an interaction I had on Half Cent dies states that I am less than proud of. I was passionate about trying to get a all (or most) of the 1804 C-6 Die States, and was essentially told that it would be greedy of me to do this. I was offended, because I thought this was such a great idea, and I reacted. I almost immediately took my post down, because I knew I over-reacted.

    Turns out, the person on the other end was @BillJones - a guy that I don't know personally, but have a deep respect for his knowledge and kindness he exhibits toward the collecting community. And... more than not knowing who I was talking to, he was right... once I stepped back and cooled, I was able to understand that for myself. I enjoy Bill's posts and advice, and the level of insight he brings is R.7 on these boards.

    @Billjones may not even remember this interaction, but I have never forgotten it, and still regret it. I would like to officially apologize to Bill for that.

    The point in telling this story is to acknowledge that we can all get passionate.... but, if we all work to stay objective and cool-headed we can learn a lot from each other. In that respect, I hope that the shadow I cast is more encouraging and curious than that of an easily-offended and mouthy newbie.

    I am my own work in progress.

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lurked for 6mos - a year before I ever posted/joined.

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @bsshog40 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Probably not practical but sometimes I feel there needs to be 3 categories within this forum; Novice, Mid Level and Expert.

    Again, not practical here but In a previous life, I had to take an on-line class and pass a test to gain access.

    Ya, but then I'd be missing out on all the Mid Level and Expert info until I graduated. Lol

    And who would administer the test?

    @MFeld 😅👀

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    FrazFraz Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    And who would administer the test?

    No matter, we’ll find you a good tutor before you have to take it.

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    bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another thing to consider is age. I didn't get back into serious collecting until around 2005, I was 46 yrs old then. I was able to accept harsh advice much better at that age than what I probably was able to in my 20's. I have kids in their 20's and 30's now and it's a bit of a challenge to give advice to them and hope they listen. You never know who you are corresponding with on an internet forum nor their experience. It's sad to say but some of the younger generation think us old timers are out of sync with the modern world. What we learn by experience is hard to compete with what google spits out. All we can do is try!

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    AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's easy for the experienced to suggest what the inexperienced should do. I agree with @ricko that we the experienced could be more tolerant. I can't control what someone else does but I'm in full control of what I do.

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