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Unfortunately....
....some of this type of thing happening is due to those.... who purposely come on here with an alt, etc., and just like to yank everyone's chain. While they may have their fun, it causes the rest of us to now be leery of what appears to be a newer collector, and we sometimes have a reluctance to help, or jump to the wrong conclusions.
Just another aspect, and just my opinion....
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You’re not wrong. It is not pretty either. There are new posters who do not pull this crap. This same stuff was going when I commenced, and I learned what not to post.
I don’t come here to post. I read. I encounter silly crap. Sometimes I join in. I don’t mess with serious communication in serious discussions.
I solved the behavior problems in my classrooms with levity.I started this thread, griping about the same thing, a few folk crapped in it.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1084196/numismasochism-inexperienced-collectors-and-posters#latestEdited to add URL
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@bsshog40 said:
Hopefully the op will gain a little humility, re-read his responses and admit that he may have steered offcourse and come back with a little more respect towards those that were trying to help him.Oh I have respect for those who are truly trying to help. I however have zero respect for those who break others down. Don’t like me disrespecting you? Don’t be an ass, simple as that. Hopping on the train to bully, when they’re very clearly being bully counts just fyi
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@BStrauss3 said:
@burfle23 said:
1st time I've seen this here...
Awwww took their football and went home... bye Felicia!
What do you seek to gain from childish antics? Grow up… and I’m the child
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@EZV said:
@BStrauss3 said:
@burfle23 said:
1st time I've seen this here...Awwww took their football and went home... bye Felicia!
What do you seek to gain from childish antics? Grow up… and I’m the child
If you don't mind me asking , how old are you?
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@EZV said:
@spyglassdesign said:
Additionally @MFeld he took offense to your question. It was just that, a question, but he took it as a challenge instead of just exactly what it was. That's on him, not you.Like you said it's a fine line communicating on such a forum. So a small suggestion... so a question doesn't come across so bluntly, if you add something akin to 'I'm wondering if there is a reason you added your cost information?' instead of telling them their cost has no bearing on the value. It might help them take it a little less personal? (Maybe not but it's worth a try at least - some people will take any question personally no matter what).
Kiss his boots, it’s all you guys do around here
Wrong, it’s called “respect”. If you stick around long enough, you would be extended the same courtesy if the roles were reversed. I’m sure I’m wasting my breath even replying. You were asked a question and chose to take it personally and throw a tantrum. No one disrespected you and no one “broke you down”. It’s all a matter of perception.
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@DeplorableDan said:
@EZV said:
@spyglassdesign said:
Additionally @MFeld he took offense to your question. It was just that, a question, but he took it as a challenge instead of just exactly what it was. That's on him, not you.Like you said it's a fine line communicating on such a forum. So a small suggestion... so a question doesn't come across so bluntly, if you add something akin to 'I'm wondering if there is a reason you added your cost information?' instead of telling them their cost has no bearing on the value. It might help them take it a little less personal? (Maybe not but it's worth a try at least - some people will take any question personally no matter what).
Kiss his boots, it’s all you guys do around here
Wrong, it’s called “respect”. If you stick around long enough, you would be extended the same courtesy if the roles were reversed. I’m sure I’m wasting my breath even replying. You were asked a question and chose to take it personally and throw a tantrum. No one disrespected you and no one “broke you down”. It’s all a matter of perception.
Oh, so purposefully joining into a conversation purely to attack a title (which, just FYI had no correlation to the question) TWICE isn’t purposefully distracting from the question at hand? Sure. Again, you worship the ground he walks on even if that ground is only hurtful to anyone new to this forum.
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I've been around this forum for a while and you're the first poster I remember seeing who claims that Mark's posts have been hurtful.
Just sayin'.
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@MasonG said:
I've been around this forum for a while and you're the first poster I remember seeing who claims that Mark's posts have been hurtful.Just sayin'.
What a stupid claim. If he’s done it once, he’s done it multiple times. The fact that he even admitted he might’ve been too harsh should tell you something. It’s hilarious the lengths you guys go to, to defend someone who knows they were in the wrong
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@MasonG said:
I've been around this forum for a while and you're the first poster I remember seeing who claims that Mark's posts have been hurtful.Just sayin'.
Agreed. Early on I didn't like some of his (and others) opinions but never took them personally... And instead learned from him and others. I have also come to find out that of everyone here, he is certainly one of the most knowledgeable in many areas. Some of his questions come across as blunt but that's just the nature of this 2d forum. You can't see emotion or body language or facial expressions. You have to have thick skin on the internet and accept that it's a blunt medium... Even if the comments or questions aren't intended that way.
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@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.
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Why is it stupid?
@EZV said:
If he’s done it once, he’s done it multiple times.That's always possible, I suppose, but I never said he didn't. I said I haven't seen it happen.
@EZV said:
The fact that he even admitted he might’ve been too harsh should tell you something.It tells me that his attempt to smooth things over with you was unsuccessful. I'm not sure what more you require.
@EZV said:
It’s hilarious the lengths you guys go to, to defend someone who knows they were in the wrongThe comment of mine that you responded to was not about Mark.
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@EZV said:
@DeplorableDan said:
Kiss his boots, it’s all you guys do around here
Wrong, it’s called “respect”. If you stick around long enough, you would be extended the same courtesy if the roles were reversed. I’m sure I’m wasting my breath even replying. You were asked a question and chose to take it personally and throw a tantrum. No one disrespected you and no one “broke you down”. It’s all a matter of perception.
Oh, so purposefully joining into a conversation purely to attack a title (which, just FYI had no correlation to the question) TWICE isn’t purposefully distracting from the question at hand? Sure. Again, you worship the ground he walks on even if that ground is only hurtful to anyone new to this forum.
Dude. Whatever. Bottom line is some folks here, myself included, actually wanted to discuss your coin.
If you're that fragile that you can't handle well intended constructive criticism, then I don't know what to tell you.
Perhaps join a transcendental meditation forum or something.
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He didn’t even direct it towards me… he simply asked if he was too harsh trying to get the opinions of his cult followers who aren’t going to disagree with him, most likely out of fear of getting bashed, not “rEspEcT” as everyone seems to claim here.
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@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
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@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
You're new here. Compare your post count to MFeld. I've been here for awhile, mostly as a reader. Hence the low post count for me. MFeld knows of what he speaks. That's all I'm saying. As for your purchase, If you're happy. I'm happy for you.
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@EZV said:
@DeplorableDan said:
@EZV said:
@spyglassdesign said:
Additionally @MFeld he took offense to your question. It was just that, a question, but he took it as a challenge instead of just exactly what it was. That's on him, not you.Like you said it's a fine line communicating on such a forum. So a small suggestion... so a question doesn't come across so bluntly, if you add something akin to 'I'm wondering if there is a reason you added your cost information?' instead of telling them their cost has no bearing on the value. It might help them take it a little less personal? (Maybe not but it's worth a try at least - some people will take any question personally no matter what).
Kiss his boots, it’s all you guys do around here
Wrong, it’s called “respect”. If you stick around long enough, you would be extended the same courtesy if the roles were reversed. I’m sure I’m wasting my breath even replying. You were asked a question and chose to take it personally and throw a tantrum. No one disrespected you and no one “broke you down”. It’s all a matter of perception.
Oh, so purposefully joining into a conversation purely to attack a title (which, just FYI had no correlation to the question) TWICE isn’t purposefully distracting from the question at hand? Sure. Again, you worship the ground he walks on even if that ground is only hurtful to anyone new to this forum.
Mark is very proper, that’s his communication style and he’s only an human just like you and I. Please look up the word “brevity” and read the definition, you will find alot of that here. Maybe if he were to be given the chance to go back in time he would have used different wording, but again it was only a remark about your title that you could have responded to calmly or not responded to all. He didn’t say anything demeaning or disrespectful, it was only a question. You are the one that reacted the way you did and took it so personally.
The people on this forum are some of the biggest names in the game that have studied, bought, and sold coins their entire lives. Some guys on here literally “wrote the book” for their area of specialty. I’m just saying you should try to treat this forum a little differently than your average Reddit coin sub where you can just pop in when you need an answer and talk to people however you please with no repercussion, that’s not how it goes here. Also note that unlike Reddit, if you post a pic of a ‘65 proof quarter and get a bunch of comments saying “wow shiny coin so rare” you’re gonna get real information from people that do this from a living.
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@Tom147 said:
@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
You're new here. Compare your post count to MFeld. I've been here for awhile, mostly as a reader. Hence the low post count for me. MFeld knows of what he speaks. That's all I'm saying. As for your purchase, If you're happy. I'm happy for you.
Okay, I’m done trolling now… I’m sorry, was having too much fun with this… I’ll see myself out, and will actually contribute to the group, and i don’t care if I’ve lost credibility
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@EZV said:
@MasonG said:
I've been around this forum for a while and you're the first poster I remember seeing who claims that Mark's posts have been hurtful.Just sayin'.
What a stupid claim. If he’s done it once, he’s done it multiple times. The fact that he even admitted he might’ve been too harsh should tell you something. It’s hilarious the lengths you guys go to, to defend someone who knows they were in the wrong
He didn't admit he was too harsh. He asked his fellow members for their opinion, and those of us who are defending are doing so because you have unfairly attacked him. He is a longstanding member of this community, much longer than I, and is very well respected.
Sometimes his questions and comments can come off as blunt, but it's only because of the impersonal nature of this forum. I personally have learned a lot from Mark. As I've got over 1k posts now, I've had many interactions with him and understand that he isn't ever attacking someone personally. If it comes off that way, it's not intentional and the other person needs to accept that it's not intended so...
If this is your first forum interaction, now is the time to learn not to take ANYTHING personally. It will do you well in the future. When someone gives an opinion or question, take it as it is (literally a stranger giving an opinion... No vested interest in the topic other than to chime in, and maybe to help someone else) and either accept it or move on. There's not enough time in this life to worry about what or how someone says something over the internet!
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@EZV said:
Okay, I’m done trolling now… I’m sorry, was having too much fun with this… I’ll see myself out, and will actually contribute to the group, and i don’t care if I’ve lost credibility
What credibility was that, exactly?
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@EZV said:
@bsshog40 said:
Hopefully the op will gain a little humility, re-read his responses and admit that he may have steered offcourse and come back with a little more respect towards those that were trying to help him.Oh I have respect for those who are truly trying to help. I however have zero respect for those who break others down. Don’t like me disrespecting you? Don’t be an ass, simple as that. Hopping on the train to bully, when they’re very clearly being bully counts just fyi
Grow up man! There are just too many people in this world that want to be coddled. You want everyone here to treat you like a little newborn. Put your big boy panties on and act like a man. If you can't accept criticism, you don't need to be here.
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EZV please take a step back for a second, especially for the people here giving you the benefit of the doubt. You are angry, you feel wronged. Many people you have put in your sights have empathy for that, and also a long track record of helping new members. It makes sense to begin by assuming good intent on their part, and carry on that way until conclusively proven otherwise.
The quality of a post is an important clue to the motivation of its author. No one has any insight into what is happening for you except through the content of your posts. Most would agree that we should aspire to a higher standard. You probably already know trolling doesn't belong in this forum, and that taking responsibility is the only way to respect. Likewise how it is always wise to accept good advice; it is always better not to take the bait.
Everyone here understands mistakes are inevitable when posting, no problem; we can always endeavor to do better on the next try. Each new post can be a fresh start to change the downward trajectory that occasionally happens when people are quick to take offense and pass judgement. When a post doesn't measure up to perfection, I have often been impressed with how well it can correct when a person is given another chance to set it right.
Everyone here most likely hopes for this forum to be a place of welcome, learning, fun, support. Those kind of interactions are the ones that all of us enjoy, that make these message boards so important.
Pursuing Charles & Joanna, especially Early Series
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What a troll.
I've just freed up one of my precious 5 ignore slots.
Once again, Bye Felicia!
-----Burton
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I'm leaning toward strong AG.
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@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
You're new here. Compare your post count to MFeld. I've been here for awhile, mostly as a reader. Hence the low post count for me. MFeld knows of what he speaks. That's all I'm saying. As for your purchase, If you're happy. I'm happy for you.
Okay, I’m done trolling now… I’m sorry, was having too much fun with this… I’ll see myself out, and will actually contribute to the group, and i don’t care if I’ve lost credibility
I'm really sorry to see it go this way.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
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@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
I had to laugh at this comment and gave you an LOL but....
Take a deep breath and just stop.
You are not helping yourself by attacking those that you perceive to be attacking you.Let this thread go and move on. If you decide to start another thread be more respectful, humble and please do not post duplicate threads.
Thank you!😎
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@DennisH said:
I'm leaning toward strong AG.I have to say, I found the timing of this comment to be particularly funny. I’m sure Dennis was trying to be helpful, and I mean absolutely no offense, but the photo of the coin has been removed from the thread since yesterday, the conversation has long since derailed from the topic, and Dennis comes out of the dugout after the game has ended to say “I’m leaning towards strong AG” 🤣🤣🤣
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Nvm forget it
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@WQuarterFreddie said:
@EZV said:
@Tom147 said:
@MFeld said:
Regarding this particular thread, I’ll ask the same question I just posed to someone by private message - “ Since the first two replies to the thread were mine, I’ll ask - do you think I was too tough on him?”
Either way, please feel free to speak up here or privately.
MFeld, Although I don't personally know you, I've read enough of your posts to form an opinion of you. Knowledge and Integrity come to mind. You don't seem to sugarcoat things and for those reasons I value your opinions. You were not to tough on him. His response was out of line. Keep doing what you're doing sir.Lay some palm leaves down as he walks by you, why don’t ya… add a little gold too, make him REALLY feel good
I had to laugh at this comment and gave you an LOL but....
Take a deep breath and just stop.
You are not helping yourself by attacking those that you perceive to be attacking you.Let this thread go and move on. If you decide to start another thread be more respectful, humble and please do not post duplicate threads.
Thank you!😎
But I’m having fun… fine… I’ll stop responding lol
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@EZV said:
@telephoto1 said:
@EZV said:
Okay, I’m done trolling now… I’m sorry, was having too much fun with this… I’ll see myself out, and will actually contribute to the group, and i don’t care if I’ve lost credibility
What credibility was that, exactly?
You realize your parents telling you to type something makes you more of a bitch than making something up on your own
And that comment just earned you a flag!🙄
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@WQuarterFreddie said:
@EZV said:
@telephoto1 said:
@EZV said:
Okay, I’m done trolling now… I’m sorry, was having too much fun with this… I’ll see myself out, and will actually contribute to the group, and i don’t care if I’ve lost credibility
What credibility was that, exactly?
You realize your parents telling you to type something makes you more of a bitch than making something up on your own
And that comment just earned you a flag!🙄
Okie dokie artichokie
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From Urban Dictionary...
Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
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@MasonG said:
From Urban Dictionary...Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
Oh look, you know how to use the internet
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@EZV said:
@MasonG said:
From Urban Dictionary...Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
Oh look, you know how to use the internet
Your insults are weak dude, seriously. If you want to rank up there with the other trolls you should at least try to be witty
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@DeplorableDan said:
@EZV said:
@MasonG said:
From Urban Dictionary...Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
Oh look, you know how to use the internet
Your insults are weak dude, seriously. If you want to rank up there with the other trolls you should at least try to be witty
Why be witty if I can just be shitty?
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@MasonG said:
From Urban Dictionary...Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
This forum is thoroughly infected.
Smitten with DBLCs.
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@Aotearoa said:
@MasonG said:
From Urban Dictionary...Last Word Syndrome
A compelling need to be the last person to speak during an argument or conversation; finishing an argument with a response of immaturity typically consisting of either repeating the last thing you said over and over until the other person stops talking, making whiny/baby noises, or childish name-calling.
This forum is thoroughly infected.
You’re not wrong… It’s hilariously ironic that he tried to use that on me even though this entire thread is just that, and not only coming from me too
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Well good luck with your next thread😴😴😴
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@WQuarterFreddie said:
Well good luck with your next thread😴😴😴I expect to be banned b4 then if I’m honest… it’s been fun though
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@EZV said:
You’re not wrong… It’s hilariously ironic that he tried to use that on me even though this entire thread is just that, and not only coming from me tooI posted a definition, nothing more. You're the one who applied it to yourself.
Just sayin'.
edited to add... I'm done with this thread, you can have the last word. Go ahead- you know you want to.
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@EZV said:
@WQuarterFreddie said:
Well good luck with your next thread😴😴😴I expect to be banned b4 then if I’m honest… it’s been fun though
It's a shame! This forum could have been a great resource for you! You've thrown away some of the best numismatic knowledge you could have received here. One day you will realize it!
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@bsshog40 said:
@EZV said:
@WQuarterFreddie said:
Well good luck with your next thread😴😴😴I expect to be banned b4 then if I’m honest… it’s been fun though
It's a shame! This forum could have been a great resource for you! You've thrown away some of the best numismatic knowledge you could have received here. One day you will realize it!
It is a great resource… there’s also a lot to me you don’t know, nobody here knows lol… if I don’t get banned then I’ll stick around, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I did
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Lurking is a great idea. North America is a great place for a comeback.
Edit: geography
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The immaturity here is truly embarrassing.
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