Should We Bring Back The Open Forum?
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No. There was a reason it was eliminated.
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No. The internet is plenty large enough to find other places to argue.
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Well, since I don't miss it, I'd say no. Some of the flesh wounds and deep stabs are still healing .......
I think an open forum or "casual conversation" forum would be nice for different topics that people want to discuss. But I think it still should be moderated to keep some people and comments civilized.
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No. Open forums quickly become the realm of insults, threats and falsehoods.
What we think doesn't matter.
The value of an open forum to our hosts (a privately held company) is practically zero. All liability, no discernable benefit..... why would they?
No it isn't. There's never a good reason not to have more places to argue.
I remember it back in the day but never participated in it. From what I heard, it was like a fenced in adult playground with no rules and an unlimited supply of poop to fling. If I wanted that I'd just go to the zoo and watch the monkeys do the same thing.
There is a weak sauce version of it out there called the Open Forum Refuge. It's like going to an old saloon and hearing the same dozen people argue with each other about the state of the world. They will also point out the this forum's posts they think are stupid. It's OK to visit there a couple times. but after while that musty catbox aroma just reminds you it's time to leave.
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Based on what I have experienced in the two plus years I have been here.....there is no chance of that happening.
Shouldn't happen and won't happen. Our hosts learned the members aren't able to stay within the rules.
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If you want an open forum, the easiest way to do it is to create your own. There are free forum hosting services out there. You could also spin up a modest AWS EC2 instance and install phpBB on it.
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I go to a couple other non-coin related forums. They actually have some great open forums that gets some great threads. It's too bad, it seems from the responses I'm seeing, that some people just don't know how to act respectively here to allow this to happen. Very sad!!!!
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I do not expect that will ever happen (for multiple reasons); and I am ok with that.
The forums as they exist now serve a purpose (coin, stamp, autograph, sports card and memorabilia collecting) well enough. No need to expand the scope of what is allowed to be discussed to something beyond this "purpose".
No.
Politics being what they are, no.
Isn't that what happens from Friday night to Monday morning? Seems to me there are some questionable threads that start on Friday night.
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Who is the "we" that can bring the open forum back, I could be mistaken but I do not think that decision is up to anyone but the folks at PCGS
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I remember those days of the Open Forum.
It did get out of hand, as in Sodom and Gomorrah terms, but also provided some good in creating a community among members.
Some of the down sides, of which there were many, included having a topic called "+1" that was used just to increase your post count and nothing else by typing in those two characters.
Other antics included making a mockery out of a topic that just posted by creating another topic right after by changing one world of the original topic that rhymes with the word being replaced. For example, someone posted:
Do you believe in evolution? (which can be a minefield in itself)
It was quickly followed by:
Do you believe in revolution?
I can see the potential good in an Open Forum also. For example, a baseball card collector can share and have exchanges regarding the hobby in the corresponding forum. We are all collectors, but our interests also venture to other things. That same baseball card collector may seek some insights on a kitchen remodel, for example, and an the Open Forum can provide a place where that can happen as collectors also come from many different trades and professions. This would draw in more people and have them utilize the forums in more ways than just for collecting interest, in general. Participants would be more likely to utilize the Collector's Universe products and services than from a competitor.
With that said, eliminating the Open Forum on here was an exercise of euthanasia.
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There's really no such thing. The moderators will still have to enforce their rules. You'd just be encouraging people to make more work for them.
Stories of Coinalot were posted here, they quit because the member who composed them faded away.
There were interesting aspects of the Open Forum such as the "Moon Landing Conspiracy" thread and the morphing of the word "some" into smoe" because of a typo. Every four years the political stuff got trotted out and made it good for a laugh. I also remember that PCGS gave notice that the Open Forum was being deleted and a few hours before that happened Legend did a drive by and insulted everyone. Oh, the memories!!
One good thing about the Open Forum, it kept most of the OT stuff away from this forum. Most OT stuff now gets posted at the Sports Forum.
No, and I don't think it's missed too much either. Let sleeping dogs lie...
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As much fun as I had on the old open forum I'd still say no to recreating it here today.
I'm would be in favor of an OT "water cooler" type forum. I really enjoy numismatic discussions with a lot of the members here and the conversation is second to none, unrivaled by any other public forum (facebook, reddit, etc). It would be interesting to take the same people and have discussions about something other than coins. I wasn't around when there was an open forum but I’m sure that as with any good thing, a few ruined it for everyone else.
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Take the vault box threads that were recently closed, add a healthy dose of steroids, testosterone, and ego that was the open forum.
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The OF was a nightmare to moderate.
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I vote no.
I come here to get away from conflict and controversy. 😉
Edited to add: if others find enjoyment there, I could just as easily not frequent the place if it got out of hand. Overall though, I suspect the moderators have their hands full already.
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Heck no. On the other hand, if it was recreated I wouldn’t visit anyway.
One of the big attractions of this forum is that it’s not allowed to run wild.
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No way.
There were some real questionable people on the OF. Specifically, heroin addicts, felons, stalkers gathering info on people, serious degenerate keyboard warriors.
A few are still members here. Thankfully don't post much.
I'd say a few acted like a 13 yr old girl but that would be an insult to the 13yr old.
No. For me it was fun at first, but got way too toxic for all the reasons listed above.
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For some, it was just a place to pad your post count.
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I wish PCGS would stop showing the "post count". I see too many posts like "nice coin" or "nice picture" clogging-up the forum and it is obvious that many are just trying to increase their post count.
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I'm in the minority here, but I actually liked the Open Forum. I rarely participated, but it sure was a great source for entertainment.
All too often, people on internet forums become the assertive, "take no crap" kind of person they've always longed to be in the real world.
I try and limit what I say to the same kinds of things I'd be comfortable saying face to face.
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The Open Forum was interesting, but also got out of hand in many ways. It was difficult and time consuming to maintain, and was detrimental to the reputation of PCGS in general. There are plenty of social media outlets for those who wish to discuss everything from politics to nudism....and argue. Not necessary here. Cheers, RickO
I have a behavior hangover from the VaultBox cluster. I would overdose on a open forum. All of the fora in which I partake eliminated the “rant” pages years ago.
There is no lack of interesting reading with so many folk.
Let that sleeping dog lie!
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Please keep new threads aligned with with category the thread is created in.
Thanks