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1909 VDB Lincoln wheat cent - red?

Hi,
I bought a large lot of 1909 VBD Lincoln Wheat cents. They were stored improperly - note the spotting on the reverse. My question is - would this come back red or red-brown if it was graded? Also - does ms64 about sound right?

Zac

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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s so hard to grade by pictures. My opinion would be 63 R&B.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess it would come back as RD, but don't really know if it would be worth certification because no matter what the grade, those spots will still be there and will limit both liquidity and value.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2023 12:57PM

    @TomB said:
    I would guess it would come back as RD, but don't really know if it would be worth certification because no matter what the grade, those spots will still be there and will limit both liquidity and value.

    Agreed, regarding the guess on color designation and I don't think the likely grade result (MS63RD?) would merit the cost of submission.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those spots look like the start of corrosion. It would not surprise me if it came back as "genuine" if submitted. It is a coin I personally would not buy.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What scope are you using to take the pics and TOO much glare.......how to stop the glare?

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    Thanks all,
    I wasn't planning on submitting this for grading, I was just trying to get an idea of if this meets the qualifications to be considered a red coin.

    @Steven59 said:
    What scope are you using to take the pics and TOO much glare.......how to stop the glare?

    It's a Nikon D3500 with a flash. When selling I typically use a set of non-flash photos as well.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Picture is too bright to conclusively ascertain the color... probably RB, but would like a better picture. As mentioned above, likely not worth the cost of submission. Cheers, RickO

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2023 8:35AM

    Here is an example of a red 1909-VDB. I think that the color should be a little "warmer" or "coppery."

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Technical grade 64 RB imo but the spots kill it. I'd just sell it raw to someone who doesn't mind the spots. If they're all spotted this badly, I wouldn't waste money on fees.


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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it might come back as Unc Details Environmental Damage.

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