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The first MS-68 CN clad Eisenhower Dollar has been made

I noticed in Coin Facts that PCGS finally graded a clad Eisenhower Dollar in MS-68. A 1977-P is the first one certified in that lofty grade since PCGS began grading coins nearly 37 years ago.
Congratulations to the submitter on this coin.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cuprinkor said:
    I noticed in Coin Facts that PCGS finally graded a clad Eisenhower Dollar in MS-68. A 1977-P is the first one certified in that lofty grade since PCGS began grading coins nearly 37 years ago.
    Congratulations to the submitter on this coin.

    37 years ago, this coin was only 9 years old!

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2023 12:12AM

    What a way to knock my 1977-P pop 1/0 PCGS-MS67+ (CAC) coin out of top slot for the date!

    I do wonder though after this MS68 coin gets sold if that price realized actually increases or decreases the value of my coin. It might actually substantially increase my value. But, my “triple weight” for the registry is gone! Lol.

    My pic MS67+ (pop 1) CAC below. Not sure which coin I personally like better (as ownership adds 1/2 point Lol)? What do you think?

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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the colors on yours better.

    As I recall, there was a flurry of speculation on the 1977 Philly Ike early in the year, with prices as high as $10, because only a small number were minted during the first few months of that year. When additional coins were struck later in 1977 the speculation evaporated.

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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin, Wondercoin. I’d be thrilled just to have a 66+ or a 67.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice new top pop Ike coin.... I have a few Ike dollars, not slabbed. Really nice as issued. Thought about submitting a couple - that was about nine years ago. Never did. Cheers, RickO

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    What a way to knock my 1977-P pop 1/0 PCGS-MS67+ (CAC) coin out of top slot for the date!

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    after putting em side-by-side and almost trying to compare the infitisimal contact marks on them both together, a near act of futility, i can see how the green toning probably would not hold up against yours but also there "appears" to be a long-ish contact mark behind the head on the 68 and that brown spot next to the R in liberty whereas your has not much to pick on if anything. but that is splitting hairs between the 2 coins and i'm glad they're both in 1 thread because they are great.

    i remember years ago before i saw high-grade examples of certain types, especially ikes, which i only at the time ever saw all banged up, to see my first 66, 67 and now 68 is a real pleasure because it is a nice looking coin. interesting and pretty well balanced.

    sorry to hear about the registry points. them darn pops have virtually nowhere to go but up!!! to the moon ;)

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a lotta nice surface on display between those two coins.

    Pete

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2023 7:01AM

    Lance. You really nailed it on the analysis of contact marks and other disturbances on each coin’s surfaces! That hidden long scratch (or contact mark as you put it) partially covered up by the toning and the large stain next to the R in Liberty really make the 2 coins probably at least the same grade in my book. And, in the end, many moons from now, it might come down to one group of Ike enthusiasts preferring the 67+ CAC coin (mine) and another group preferring the 68 non-CAC coin as a “toss up”.

    Thank you Vasanti and Overdate!

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 67+ looks like it could get a 68 next time around.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow very nice Ikes

    Collector, occasional seller

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    Lance. You really nailed it on the analysis of contact marks and other disturbances on each coin’s surfaces! That hidden long scratch (or contact mark as you put it) partially covered up by the toning and the large stain next to the R in Liberty really make the 2 coins probably at least the same grade in my book. And, in the end, many moons from now, it might come down to one group of Ike enthusiasts preferring the 67+ CAC coin (mine) and another group preferring the 68 non-CAC coin as a “toss up”.

    Thank you Vasanti and Overdate!

    Wondercoin

    Why not see if yours can get bumped to 68?

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They’re both awesome coins but side by side w/o knowing the grades I would take the Blue green 68.
    It has a heavier strike and thicker yet smoother skin.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ‘’Why not see if yours can get bumped to 68?’’

    To this point, there was no such thing as an MS68 clad Ike. The floodgates have opened!

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Id like to see your obverse paired with the reverse of the other. Now that would be a winner!

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking coin!

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    BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭

    Amazing. How many mint sets would you have to go through to find that?

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ‘’Amazing. How many mint sets would you have to go through to find that?”

    If memory serves me right, a significant number of all the PCGS-MS67 specimens of 1977-P Ikes in existence came from a few sealed $1000 bags of coins opened and bulk graded by a PA dealer a long time ago. At one point, they consigned all the MS67 pieces to me to sell for them. I sold a few nice quality coins from that deal to collectors and bought the nicest MS67 piece for my collection. Eventually, the dealer asked me to return to them all the unsold MS67 coins I still had remaining. I still have my MS67 from that large deal in addition to the 67+ shown here. I was personally unable to grade a single MS67 Ike example of this date from the thousands of 1977 Mint sets that I actively searched (and continue to search) for 41 years.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    both of those IKEs are VERY nice.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Technically the coin was made in 1977, it was just recognized recently...

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    CuprinkorCuprinkor Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    There have been 20th century coins PCGS has graded MS-68 (1940-58 Lincolns - JFK Halves) in the past two years. In the past PCGS (almost) NEVER assigned such a lofty grade.
    Regarding clad Eisenhower Dollars, I can visualize the right 76-D type 2 in a PCGS MS-68 holder.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe I’m way off here, but am I the only one who thinks the color is questionable?

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    SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2023 5:43PM

    I'm not sure if it is simply the imaging, but @wondercoin 's 67+ appears to have a stronger strike. Aside from that, I see nothing that distinguishes the 68 vs 67+ other than the year in which they were graded. (I'm not sure that the 68 would get a CAC green sticker)

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    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:
    I suspect that might be a good auction coin.


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    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1977-1/7423

    Absolutely spectacular! 😦

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 67+ is also insane!!!

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Technically the coin was made in 1977, it was just recognized recently...

    it did not look like that in 1977, it looks better now

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    WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    What a way to knock my 1977-P pop 1/0 PCGS-MS67+ (CAC) coin out of top slot for the date!

    I do wonder though after this MS68 coin gets sold if that price realized actually increases or decreases the value of my coin. It might actually substantially increase my value. But, my “triple weight” for the registry is gone! Lol.

    My pic MS67+ (pop 1) CAC below. Not sure which coin I personally like better (as ownership adds 1/2 point Lol)? What do you think?

    Wondercoin

    I prefer yours @wondercoin , the color seals it for me B)<3

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    How does a clad coin achieve those colors ?
    I would think only silver coins would tone this way.

    Chris

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the 68 just a little bit better than the 67+ but BOTH are SUPERB!!!

    Congrats to the maker/submitter of this new MOOSE!

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