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GTG: 1917 SLQ Type 1 - Result Posted

Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 12, 2023 5:59PM in U.S. Coin Forum

First Newp of 2023 and destined for my type set. I think this will be a tricky one. I will post a full shot of the slab tomorrow at about this same time. Thanks for playing!

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a really strong strike. Other than that the toning is a challenge... My gut says 65fh

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks MS to me and actually appears to have really good luster (at least on the obverse) given the fact that it has quite dark, peripheral toning. It also appears to be FH. My first guess would be MS64FH with a lean toward MS65FH.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2023 8:06AM

    I see rub so raw I'd see this as a AU58 but feel it may have graded MS63FH.

    I'm somewhat of a closeted crust lover so the originality of this appeals to me. Not all like these crusty critters, so I wouldn't buy an example like this for resale. Yet that beings said I still wish I'd bought a MS64 1926 Oregon Trail as such years ago which members here talked me out of doing so. The crust perfectly filled the great lakes behind the Indian and the design due to being crusty visually just popped.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64FH

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    LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU-58FH

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice gem, most all of these are FH for year/type.

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63-FH

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64FH

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm gonna say 55. Looks to be more wear to me than others are seeing.

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    WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63FH

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be MS64 FH..... It does have a lot of schmutz though... Cheers, RickO

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58 FH

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64fh

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    I'm gonna say 55. Looks to be more wear to me than others are seeing.

    I saw it but sometimes I think something is wear and the pros at the tpg surprise me. I'm thinking it could just be a little weakness in the strike. Hard to tell without looking in hand.

    I guess we will find out tonight!

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU63

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    MS64+ no FH

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2023 11:04AM

    63 not a full head. But, looks like she’s wearing glasses.

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With the toning it is difficult to see what is toning/lighting vs wear. Not my type of toning and it looks like some contact marks in with the toning. I'm torn with high AU or MS. I will guess its graded 63FN... oops, I meant 63FH.

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    sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭

    58FH

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58+FH

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the pic, I'll go 53.

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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spyglassdesign said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    I'm gonna say 55. Looks to be more wear to me than others are seeing.

    I saw it but sometimes I think something is wear and the pros at the tpg surprise me. I'm thinking it could just be a little weakness in the strike. Hard to tell without looking in hand.

    I guess we will find out tonight!

    These coins in Unc. are hammered strike wise. If you think it's a weak strike, look again, I'll bet it's wear.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63

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    rokkyrokky Posts: 308 ✭✭✭✭

    64FH

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58FH Awesome color!

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    AU53

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @spyglassdesign said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    I'm gonna say 55. Looks to be more wear to me than others are seeing.

    I saw it but sometimes I think something is wear and the pros at the tpg surprise me. I'm thinking it could just be a little weakness in the strike. Hard to tell without looking in hand.

    I guess we will find out tonight!

    These coins in Unc. are hammered strike wise. If you think it's a weak strike, look again, I'll bet it's wear.

    Jeff, I don't think it's a weak strike or wear.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are areas that look like rub to me: the shield and Miss Liberty's knee, the top of the eagle's head and the lower part of the bottom wing. My initial thought was AU55. It's got a different look for an issue that's easily found nice and golden toned.

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    spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @spyglassdesign said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    I'm gonna say 55. Looks to be more wear to me than others are seeing.

    I saw it but sometimes I think something is wear and the pros at the tpg surprise me. I'm thinking it could just be a little weakness in the strike. Hard to tell without looking in hand.

    I guess we will find out tonight!

    These coins in Unc. are hammered strike wise. If you think it's a weak strike, look again, I'll bet it's wear.

    Overall it seems to be a strong strike but that doesn't mean there aren't some minor weaknesses present necessarily. Perhaps with the black toning it could be a bit of toning that looks like possible light wear too.

    Either way it will truly be interesting to find out what the tpg thinks of it.

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63FH

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63FH, too much chatter for higher grade imho.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the look- I am in the 64 camp- possibly FH- The reverse above AMERICA looks to have enough contact marks to possibly keep the coin out of a 5 holder.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting piece. At first I was going to say 58FH. But I think I might have interpreted the breaks in the darker toning as wear... I'll say 63FH...

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 65FH.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:
    I'll go with 65FH.

    While I guessed 64FH, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if your guess turns out to be correct. At the same time, I will be very surprised if the coin was graded AU.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64FH

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the head detail for a 1917

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-64 FH

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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess 63

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    dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    MS64

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks much better in the slab shot.

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Looks much better in the slab shot.

    My GTG shots are on a Nikon with my copy stand setup. Slab shot is iPhone.

    I purchased the coin on 1/1 from GC - photos here:

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1283916/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-PCGS-MS-64-FH-CAC

    Here are the Stacks photos from 2015:

    https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/1-1AQCI/1917-standing-liberty-quarter-type-i-ms-64-fh-pcgs-cac

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a lot to learn about grading ...... :D

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, wow looks like a whole different coin in that full slab picture in a positive way.

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    Good choice.

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    I'm floored by the grade and more by the CAC. I would never buy that one as a MS64FH. I don't know what you paid, but there are prettier 64fhs out there. But I'm glad you're happy. That's all that counts. Enjoy AC

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lostintranslation said:
    I'm floored by the grade and more by the CAC. I would never buy that one as a MS64FH. I don't know what you paid, but there are prettier 64fhs out there. But I'm glad you're happy. That's all that counts. Enjoy AC

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