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90 CC Morgan Cleaned

justindanjustindan Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 30, 2022 2:30PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I would like your opinion on this Morgan Dollar. It has been to PCGS twice, both times returned cleaned. I'm getting ready to send it to GC and want to ensure I'm making the correct decision.

The coin in hand has hairlines consistent with die polishing on the rev. It has light PL reflectivity on both sides which is hidden slightly by light haze.

My guess is that it is over dipped just enough to warrant the details grade. Any thoughts?

Sell as is? Crack it out and put in an envelope? Throw it into the street?

TV for both trips.

In hand photos:


  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the cleaned designation. The luster reflection in and around the devices and in the general fields looks different and the reverse above the eagle looks wiped. Looks like a cloth was used to wipe the coin and dipped.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t see any issues that make me think details-grade, based on the TrueView images. However, I can see the possibility of a “cleaned” determination, in the other images. The sheen on both sides looks off in them, and much of the area above IN GOD WE TRUST on the reverse appears potentially problematic.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • justindanjustindan Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks to you both.

  • Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭✭

    Please don't throw it into the street. Throw it to me.

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe it is important to note that grading companies will almost always details grade a coin that has even a small spot on either side of the coin that appears cleaned or hairlined….
    Which appears to be likely the case here…

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the picture I think your evaluation appears good. Either a little to much dip or other or both.

    I had some raw dollars and was wanting to reduced the collection years ago. One was an AU 1893CC. When held under a light it appeared okay (an AU will have some broken luster) but if tilted left-right 45 to 60 degrees (90 degrees being on edge) there were some notable hairlines. I figured it was one of those 'worth a shot'. Came back AU53. So yes sometimes they go through. There is a semi-wide border line on the market acceptable.

    I also see that area one the reverse at 12 o/c in your photo. If the coin was rotated 90 degrees with the same lighting to where the brighter luster was on that area it might give more information to you or the extreme tilting I noted.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The TruView's do not (IMO) justify the cleaned determination... On the subsequent pictures, the reverse, above the eagle, does give an appearance of having been cleaned. Cheers, RickO

  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always use GSA CC dollars as a side-by-side comparo. Hard to tell not in hand. Yours looks 63 ish and dipped but not whizzed IMHO.
    Looks great.

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  • justindanjustindan Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I appreciate all the opinions and advice. You'll soon see the coin at GC and a straight graded replacement in my set.

    Thanks and Happy New Year.

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