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MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

I haven't heard much about the auction(s) at the F.U.N. Show that's coming up which seems unusual to me. I checked at Heritage and it seems as though the sale is smaller than usual, although I did notice that they're listing some of the Bass collection and they'll also hold an auction in NY City about the same time. Does this seem right, that the auction is smaller, or is it just my perception?? As a side-thought, I miss the "old days" when Heritage sent out catalogues to regular customers, but I imagine those are gone to posterity.

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    NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup. Not only that, but the auction is not even going to be onsite. During the pandemic, they discovered that they do just fine without the hassle and expense of onsite auctions, so here we are. They will have lot viewing in Orlando, but the actual auction will be the following week in Dallas. The new normal. Get used to it.

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I noticed that with Stack's, lot viewing is in one location but the actual "live auction" is at their CA headquarters. You're correct, the new normal.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sure it would be larger and much more promoted if Heritage had been selected to auction the Blay collection.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    I'm sure it would be larger and much more promoted if Heritage had been selected to auction the Blay collection.

    I wonder if Ian will showcase some of the pieces at FUN.

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    FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    According to the FUN website “FUN 2023 Schedule of Events” the Bass Sale Part II will be held on site at the Convention Center Room N230B at 7pm, Thursday, Jan. 5.

    Anyone who will be around the OCCC that evening can enjoy what is becoming an increasingly rare event. Pre-Covid I always used to sit in on these rooms watching the bidding.

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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:

    @coinbuf said:
    I'm sure it would be larger and much more promoted if Heritage had been selected to auction the Blay collection.

    I wonder if Ian will showcase some of the pieces at FUN.

    He usually does...........


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    UltraHighReliefUltraHighRelief Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Heritage auction has a smaller number of lots, but there are some amazing coins being auctioned. Check out the Bass and Bender collections!

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    NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    According to the FUN website “FUN 2023 Schedule of Events” the Bass Sale Part II will be held on site at the Convention Center Room N230B at 7pm, Thursday, Jan. 5.

    Anyone who will be around the OCCC that evening can enjoy what is becoming an increasingly rare event. Pre-Covid I always used to sit in on these rooms watching the bidding.

    Yup. The balance of the FUN auction, which is always a multi-day event, is being held in Dallas from January 11-15. Maybe they had a deal with Bass that requires the sale to be held at the show? If not, why break this one session out from the others, even the other Platinum ones?

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a lot of good 'stuff' in this FUN auction. Below is a screenshot of some noted 'collections'.

    Part of the reason the auction might seem smaller (and is) is due to HA now having many more auctions weekly and monthly and specialty. So many of the 'smaller' items are in other auctions and some of the better ones in specialty auctions.

    Don't know about Bass but the Part 1 was also onsite or at the show. Also it is a for charity auction. Don't know if that has anything to do with the difference.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2ndCharter said:
    I miss the "old days" when Heritage sent out catalogues to regular customers, but I imagine those are gone to posterity.

    Mine arrived last Friday.

    I have not read it yet but did glance, the special 1870S catalog looks impressive and informative.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m still very disappointed they are selling the Bass collection

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    winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also received the auction catalogs. The Bender Collection II has some phenomenal Indian Head Cents and $3 Gold, with CAC stickers.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was reading through the HA catalog - Famed 1870-S Rarities - for the upcoming FUN auction(s). I have not found this catalog on the HA website but it is not really an auction catalog per say. Perhaps I am missing it though.

    There are 17 pages upfront that write about mint information, cornerstones at mints (P, CC and S) with more detail on the SF cornerstone associated with the $3 1870S. Then more information on various cornerstone coins. I would scan these and post them but something says - Not. Don't know why HA does not have it listed (again unless I am missing it) as I think it would be good publicity and show the good work of their writers / catalogers.

    The write up then notes the assortment of 1870-S coins available in the HA FUN auction. The remainder of the catalog (21 pages)reprints the other auction catalog information and descriptions (with some added photos) of the 1870-S coins in the HA FUN auction.

    I thought I would list them here in the order they appear in the catalog (in case anyone is wanting to do an 1870-S collection).

    1870-S Three Dollar Gold, SP50
    Legendary San Francisco Mint Rarity
    Only Available Example
    Ex: Woodin-'Colonel' Green-Eliasberg-Bass
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/three-dollar-gold-pieces/three-and-four-dollar-gold/1870-s-3-sp50-893-engraved-pcgs-unique-pcgs-7992-/a/1355-9013.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Seated Liberty Half Dime, MS64
    The Fabled Only Known Example
    A Treasure of Numismatic Mystery and Intrigue
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-half-dimes/half-dimes/1870-s-h10c-ms64-pcgs-cac-pcgs-4397-/a/1356-3341.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Seated Dime, F-101, R.3, MS66
    The Eliasberg-Bender Coin
    One of the Top Two Certified Examples
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dimes/dimes/1870-s-10c-misplaced-date-f-101-r3-ms66-pcgs-pcgs-538254-/a/1356-3383.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Half Dollar, MS65, Gold CAC
    Dramatic Quality, None Graded Finer
    Ex: Usibelli
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-half-dollars/half-dollars/1870-s-50c-ms65-pcgs-gold-cac-wb-101-die-pair-1-r3-pcgs-6329-/a/1356-3728.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Seated Dollar, XF40
    One of Only Nine Confirmed Examples
    Rarest Regular-Issue U.S. Silver Dollar
    Ex: Miles-Queller
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-dollars/silver-and-related-dollars/1870-s-1-xf40-ngc-oc-1-low-r7-pcgs-6965-/a/1356-3766.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Gold Dollar, MS65+
    Only One Example Graded Finer
    Ex: Simpson-Bender
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/gold-dollars/1870-s-g-1-ms65-pcgs-cac-pcgs-7570-/a/1356-3817.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

    1870-S Double Eagle, MS63
    Tied for Finest, Endorsed by CAC
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/liberty-double-eagles/double-eagles/1870-s-20-ms63-pcgs-cac-pcgs-8959-/a/1356-3900.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you look at the 1870-S Half Dime as well? I have handled both, but not at the same time.

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    OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PocketChange Your post regarding the viewing of the Bass coins was very insightful. The thrill of having a unique coin in your hands will never be forgotten. If it had been me, I would have relished the enhanced security and the respect that I might be a bona-fide bidder for the 70-S. But if I had no intention of bidding on the coin I would not waste my time.

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Did you look at the 1870-S Half Dime as well? I have handled both, but not at the same time.

    I only looked at the $3, although it would have been cool to hold both simultaneously. I know they’re both “unique”, but the more well-documented Bass coin with its associated provenances (Woodin, Eliasberg, etc.), hand punched mintmark, and engraving/graffiti is much more interesting to me. Now, just have to figure out my bidding strategy ;)

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    About 40 minutes until the auction starts and the 1870 S half dime is at Hammer $ 1,725,000.

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    redraiderredraider Posts: 126 ✭✭✭✭

    The Indian Cents were going nuts! The prices exceeded what I was thinking on many of them. Was looking to be a buyer on a few, but got way too expensive for my blood really quick! 1870-s half dime live as of now as I type this!

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hammer at $ 2,600,000.

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    PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:
    Hammer at $ 2,600,000.

    Then add the juice of 20% over that $3,120,000 final price tag.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Up next tomorrow in the platinum nights auction is the Unique:

    1873-CC 10C No Arrows MS65 PCGS..t
    Currently at Hammer $ 3,000,000.

    Can this one out bid the 1870-S $3 at $ 5,520,000. all in?
    That is Hammer $ 4,600,000.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2ndCharter said:
    I miss the "old days" when Heritage sent out catalogues to regular customers, but I imagine those are gone to posterity.

    Mine arrived last Friday.

    I get catalogs as well.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YNufnS_kf4 - Mama I'm coming home ...................................................................................................................................................................... RLJ 1958 - 2023

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin has certainly "circulated" quite a bit during it's existence. It strikes me as being to valuable to own, so buyers hold it for a little while and then reap the profit. Also, two guys by the name of Waldo owned it!! :D

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