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DreamcrusherDreamcrusher Posts: 210 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 15, 2022 3:47PM in U.S. Coin Forum

When I teach my grading class, I as well as my co-instructors refer to MS-60 as the "Forbidden Grade." It just seems that third party grading companies are reluctant to use that grade. Especially with very valuable stuff. I'm not saying that they "never" use that grade, I'm just saying that they are reluctant. I won't do this but if someone put a set together (Buffalo nickles, Mercury dimes,etc.) and they were all MS-60, that would be very impressive to me. Ugly but impressive.

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears you are correct but a little more difficult at least for pcgs. Looking at the pop pages for Buffalo and Mercury in 60 there are several at pop 1 and a few at pop 0. So would need to 'make' some of them.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2022 10:57AM

    Funny, your post made me wonder so I checked. Only one coin graded as MS60 in my collection, a few raw coins that I grade MS60 but only one certified example.

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    RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just from looking at 100's of coins each day on Ebay it becomes obvious that PCGS currently uses MS62 as the base uncirculated grade and NGC uses MS61 as their base. That being said there are a fair number of rattlers with MS60 out there. These 2 popped up on my Ebay search today.

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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭

    That would be an interesting set. I’ve thought about doing a 12 piece gold MS60.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would only be interesting and I doubt anyone would take it on as it would be a value loss item, in my opinion. You would never be able to sell it as a collection and extremely hard to sell individually. I don't see anyone wishing to have the set to keep permanently. If someone should it would be interesting.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly a grade that is not commonly used by the services. Not sure why, seems the same amount of evaluation is required as it is between any two other grades. Cheers, RickO

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Come to think about it ... I haven't seen many coins graded 60. Thanks for reminding me that it still exists.

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    toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2022 11:01AM
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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting info on this grade. I'm gonna start checking my slabs, after the holiday dust has settled. I think you should pursue your project. Peace Roy

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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭

    Here’s a nice MS60.

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    pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,151 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vasanti said:
    Here’s a nice MS60.

    It's beat up but I've seen much uglier 61's and 62's.

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just pulled out the following pics from archives because I vaguely remembered picking up a couple of NGC graded Morgans in MS 60 which I personally think could definitely grade higher.
    Also have a couple of them come back in MS 60 details grade from ANACS (1898 half eagle and a 1927 Peace) that was submitted from my own collection.

    NGC

    1897


    1921

    ANACS details slabs

    1898 Half eagle

    1927 Peace

    Cheers.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once tried doing a set of Morgan NGC star holders with CAC in all the relatively affordable grades (60 to 67). The 60 and 61 were the most challenging and I abandoned the idea (didn't want to pay 65 money for the only 61 star I saw at the time).

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @vulcanize said:
    Also have a couple of them come back in MS 60 details grade from ANACS (1898 half eagle and a 1927 Peace) that was submitted from my own collection.

    ANACS details slabs

    1898 Half eagle

    1927 Peace

    Cheers.

    Aren't all uncirculated details coins in ANACS holders graded 60?

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    AtcarrollAtcarroll Posts: 343 ✭✭✭

    @daltex said:

    @vulcanize said:
    Also have a couple of them come back in MS 60 details grade from ANACS (1898 half eagle and a 1927 Peace) that was submitted from my own collection.

    ANACS details slabs

    1898 Half eagle

    1927 Peace

    Cheers.

    Aren't all uncirculated details coins in ANACS holders graded 60?

    I think so, at least the newer slabs.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:

    @vulcanize said:
    Also have a couple of them come back in MS 60 details grade from ANACS (1898 half eagle and a 1927 Peace) that was submitted from my own collection.

    ANACS details slabs

    1898 Half eagle

    1927 Peace

    Cheers.

    Aren't all uncirculated details coins in ANACS holders graded 60?

    Yes they are. It's only in the grades below mint state that they say something like AU 55 Details vs AU 58 Details.

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    DreamcrusherDreamcrusher Posts: 210 ✭✭✭✭

    @vulcanize said:
    Just pulled out the following pics from archives because I vaguely remembered picking up a couple of NGC graded Morgans in MS 60 which I personally think could definitely grade higher.
    Also have a couple of them come back in MS 60 details grade from ANACS (1898 half eagle and a 1927 Peace) that was submitted from my own collection.

    NGC

    1897


    1921

    ANACS details slabs

    1898 Half eagle

    1927 Peace

    Cheers.

    I agree, I think you got pinched on the Morgans.

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's one. Consistent with previous comments, it's in an old holder and nicer than plenty of 62's I see now.

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