Fake 1800 Draped Bust Half Cent?
jesbroken
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I feel this is a fake 1800 DBHC, do you? Several things wrong with this C-1(only die pair). Most obvious to me is the left foot of the "T" in LIBERTY should be missing and is not and the "T" is not aligned correctly with the hair line. Also, the top left leaf on reverse is a double and should be a single.This seller has several complaints filed thru feedback of fake coins, to boot. EBAY https://www.ebay.com/itm/325429416360?hash=item4bc51ad1a8:g:Lh8AAOSwRRBjZ-fP&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAsC1Mj6XA7vBxPEX57IjhMOUv25ego2thz/Y4+6z4g6R5oMN63hCnrxe7JdoS4pS9twbhAkSqam2pUrcXef0fIZlc8LSYDVJVbXTRdGm6BAr0Uce+hUi3Wwp/02QCQnVp7t5MWDr6n+SNw/aN3l5wiisOtTdgas8O7L25mL56SH914kZUcFTbSVqN6RrCe5Xz2aPf43ExW1fq+ZHaNEE6b/oz+r3DInYx9b4r45Sj/6sU|tkp:Bk9SR_aw-MyhYQ
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
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That reverse granular "look" offers this one as a counterfeit.
(There are other tells, too, mine is the easiest to spot.)
peacockcoins
Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard
100% fake - wrong reverse for the date.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
It has the "look" of a counterfeit, but I am not knowledgeable enough to make that call.
oh yeah!!
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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Yes, All 1800 half cents have "the old style" reverse from the 1790s. This reverse was used for a short while to make the rare 1802, old reverse half cents. For that reason I have always liked the 1800 half cent, and kept my example when I sold my half cent collection. Here is a genuine example.
Very nice 1800 Half Cent @BillJones
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I reported, but not taken down yet.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
To me it looks like an authentic counterfeit.
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I sent the seller the link to this thread, he replied with this:
Edit: grammar
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I would have said "You should include the word 'copy' or 'counterfeit' in the title to avoid confusion".
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Just another fake.
Anyone who read my Coin Week article on this "family" of fakes know what this one is
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https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-a-family-of-struck-fake-half-cents/
The genuine source coin seems to have been a C-6... to me at least, but large cents are more my thing than half cents.
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Wrong reverse not withstanding, the posted coin just looks fake. Some of those posted in your article are more deceptive, at least to me. Wondering if those were created later, as they improved their methods.?
don't forget to tell them there are at least 2 separate felonies. (although i think we can bail out for $5 in certain states these days)
Seller is in Germany. Good luck with the prosecution.
are these listed? i went to seller's other items but didn't see them.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325449920077
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325413879926
Reading seller's negfeeds it's not something new to this seller. The 1806 DBHC is fake also, as one would expect.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@BillJones... Thanks for posting the picture of your coin. When comparing to the OP, the differences become obvious. Cheers, RickO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325413879926
Counterfeit and Restrike have different meanings. I personally do not remember this coin being restruck by any official entity. Someone correct me if I am wrong. The red book now refers to restrikes as "unofficial" restrikes. You cannot simply replace the word "counterfeit" with "restrike". These could have been made yesterday. The hobby protection act does not apply outside of the US. Newbees beware, but old-time savvy collectors will catch this every time.