5 dollar Indian head with medal allignment

Hello,
friend called and said that he has 5 dollar Indian head 1912 with medal allignment.Does anybody knows about existance of those? If they are not fakes what about value? Coin is not in very good shape unfortunately.
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We need some good pics to make any judgement.
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We will need pictures to give you useful advice.
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High probability that it is a fake made for use in jewelry.
@dalmatian .... Welcome aboard. Please get pictures and post them here so we may help you determine authenticity, condition and possible value. Cheers, RickO
Thank you all for quick answers...friend will post me good photos, now I dont have quite good unfortunately.
I would not bet the ranch on that one being genuine. The New Orleans Mint screwed up like that on the 1839-O quarter eagle, but by the 20th century, the standards for gold were really tight.
Have your friend photograph the coin about an inch or two over a flat mirror and offset the camera to the side a bit so that you can see both sides in one image.
those two photos are not so good...I am waiting for better ones
We would need to see both sides at once, as mentioned above. Hold over a flat mirror so we can see the the obverse, plus the reverse as reflected in the mirror.
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Now listen boy, I'm tryin' to teach you sumthin' . . . . that ain't no optical illusion, it only looks like an optical illusion.
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The 1914 looks somewhat normal.
The 1912 (with medal alignment) does not look normal (too small in diameter, strange rims, numerous disruptions of details).
It is either a cast copy, and/or two halves joined together incorrectly.
A picture of the edge may tell the tale.
Can't tell a thing from those images.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1912-5/8523
They both look fake in those photos. Lol. We need better pictures. The two coins tell us nothing. Without the mirror, you could easily just rotate one to look like medal alignment. So get rid of the reference coin and simply give is good photos of both sides, preferably with the mirror.
While you're at it, weight and diameter can't hurt. Good luck
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As you can see from the above commentary, we need the picture over a mirror so we can see both sides at once. Also the edge, since it could be joined pieces. Cheers, RickO
Both look fake and ravaged.
This is the most faked series. I can't trust ANYTHING raw. There's definitely fakes which have fooled the TPG's.
Either the owner was a vampire... or a troll.
Here is new photo from friend...I must admit that diameter looks smaller in medal allignment coin
I asked him to send dimeter and weight of coin but still no data
THat shows the obverse and the reverse upside down relative to each other, which is the normal coin alignment.
Agree. OP, this is just my opinion, but if I were you I would move on from this coin and try to find a nice graded example that’s already been authenticated.
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