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Does the reverse of this Seated quarter appear double struck?

braddickbraddick Posts: 23,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

It might just be my eyes, yet it appears double-struck.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, though there are other possible explanations. Let’s see the other side and the edge.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hmm. i'm gonna guess the other side is a love token? braddick likes surprising us. ;)

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, that's the quad wing variety ;)

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    hmm. i'm gonna guess the other side is a love token? braddick likes surprising us. ;)

    I do!
    Yet alas, I was only sent this one side of the coin.
    I will alert the sender and inquirer I will need to see the obverse for a complete diagnosis.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It does!!

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of arrowheads.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse:

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks double struck, but also looks like could be a counterfeit

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭✭✭


    .
    First I don't know anything about this so basically just observing and asking questions.

    If double struck (and not a problem as potentially noted above), then it would appear to be either struck and then rotated CW or then rotated CCW.

    Looking at the lettering U of United is touching wing for the lower U and then the other U above it. The other letters are a little jumbled together but at the end the two D's and for States the two initial S and the A. America the foot of the E is in the R and at the end the double A and a little of the double weak C.

    Looking at the shield and comparing to a normal one, then the upper right and left corners of the shield touch the periphery of the wing to body/neck. With this shield it would appear to match up with the lower of the two wings on the viewers right and the upper of the two wing on the viewers left.

    One for comparison.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unrelated, but it looks like someone tried to erase the date? Odd to see black rectangle box around the date.

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    FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reverse definitely looks double struck. The obverse doesn't seem to fit though.
    I'm not an error guy so I will wait for someone with more expertise than I in that area.
    Very cool though.
    You always come up with some interesting stuff.

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    Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2022 7:12PM

    Rotated then struck again obverse looks slightly off center.. But if that were the case the obverse would also be rotated and double stuck. Can we see the edge?

    edited to add the obverse has doubling of some kind on the base...

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    @braddick said:
    Obverse:

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would love to know weight and specific gravity.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A Bowtie Fantastic!!!

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not double struck, I don't think. The whole thing is off.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibilities:
    1. Die struck counterfeit from impact dies where the false die was grossly doubled during the impacting.
    2. Genuine coin used to sink a false die with rotation of the false die between impacts.

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    RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it was double struck in collar the obverse would show some similar doubling. I think it is a counterfeit.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Glue/lacquer on obverse?

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking counterfeit.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counterfeit.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bogus and a bit fugly, jmo

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just looking at the pictures, it looks phony to me.... Poor attempt at counterfeit... I would bet the weight is off... Cheers, RickO

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