Check for two faint die scratches leading downward from the left bar of the T in CENT on the reverse to establish authenticity. These are two nearly vertical die-polishing lines that form a compressed letter X just left of the T in cent. These lines may be difficult to see on worn or cleaned coins. One die state does not show them at all.
Some, but not all 1955 doubled die cents show a raised lump beneath the left wheat ear, just below the left side of the letter O in OF.
The earliest state of this die also revealed several filing lines which appear raised on the coins. These are found just below the left wheat ear, but these lines disappeared from the die with subsequent repolishing.
The color of the coin seems a bit off. It may be the color balance in your photos or the background color. You could try some new photos on a white background to see if that helps your camera to pick up the coin colors better. From the color of the coin I would question if it had a mild cleaning or dip quite a while ago and has started to retone. The photos also make it appear flat in color with no mint lustre showing, this could also be a sign of an older cleaning. From the photos I would guess or host would give it a questionable color or cleaned tag. I could easily change my mind with different photos.
If it did grade I would guess a MS-62 RB. There are a couple of harder hits on both sides.
The ungraded example looks AU details, questionable color (or cleaned).
Edited to add: if the last set of images is accurate, as TomB indicated, it looks as if the coin could straight grade.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think it's real and that the first set of images have an issue with color balance and overexposure. The second set of images make the color appear much more natural and I could see it as a straight-grade AU.
@Chevyrose said:
Here are some pics with a white background.
The lighting is still off, your white background looks different in both photos and is kinda pinkish.
I would guess the background you used was a piece of paper?
@Chevyrose said:
Here are some pics with a white background.
The lighting is still off, your white background looks different in both photos and is kinda pinkish.
I would guess the background you used was a piece of paper?
Do you have any recommendations as far as taking pictures of coins is concerned? What to use as a backdrop ? Ect. I’ve honestly never photographed a coin
@Chevyrose said:
Here are some pics with a white background.
The lighting is still off, your white background looks different in both photos and is kinda pinkish.
I would guess the background you used was a piece of paper?
I made a quick adjustment to make the background white and this is what I got...
@Chevyrose said:
Do you have any recommendations as far as taking pictures of coins is concerned? What to use as a backdrop ? Ect. I’ve honestly never photographed a coin
Sorry, I wish I could help you more. There are many folks here that can help much better than I can.
I can take a decent photo but it has taken years of practice to find what works best for me.
My thoughts on captureing the correct hue as seen in hand.
1. convince yourself that they match.
2. If adjustment's are nessary see #1.
3. If details are the target all's fare.
I can do without the ball and chain.
Is that a armour bearing ?
Boo !
See what experimenting with your camera could produce . Fake Luster.> @ifthevamzarockin said:
The coin definitely still has mint luster
I cannot find absolutely definitive wear on it, when I started collecting I purchased 5000 wheat cents from my local shop, sat down over a month period, and graded every single one with David langes book the complete guide to Lincoln cents on hand
It is indeed genuine
Yes he has a scratch on his head, but while viewing many pcgs tru views, I’ve noticed most have marks on Lincoln’s head and still graded
To be graded RB it needs 5%-95% red color
It will be sent in for grading in the next month to pcgs
These are just my opinions
We will see what pcgs says
It could take a while for pcgs turnaround time, at which point I’ll revive this thread
I paid $2800 for the coin
A bit of a gamble
But if I could never fail I wouldn’t try
Came back cleaned AU details unfortunately. I saw no signs of traditional cleaning myself. The truviews look identical to rb truview examples on coin facts. Live and learn
@Chevyrose said:
Came back cleaned AU details unfortunately. I saw no signs of traditional cleaning myself. The truviews look identical to rb truview examples on coin facts. Live and learn
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cleaned on copper coins is a whole different animal than silver and gold usually.
@bolivarshagnasty said:
Tuition. For 2800, you could have had a nice PCGS graded coin which would be very marketable.
But I’d like to be an able to confidently buy ungraded coins and not have to rely on TPG at least initially. I still have a lot to learn
If you want to confidently buy ungraded coins, that's something you're gonna have to work towards. That's not the first step in the modern era of coin collecting, it's the last.
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@bolivarshagnasty said:
Tuition. For 2800, you could have had a nice PCGS graded coin which would be very marketable.
But I’d like to be an able to confidently buy ungraded coins and not have to rely on TPG at least initially. I still have a lot to learn
If you want to confidently buy ungraded coins, that's something you're gonna have to work towards. That's not the first step in the modern era of coin collecting, it's the last.
The last step is learning how to grade ungraded coins?
Collectors should know how to grade and something I’m constantly working towards, probably forever
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The cuts on the portrait limit the grade, yet otherwise a neat coin.
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Probably a 64 (head scratches) if there is some luster remaining. Hard to comfortably grade from the pics.
I don’t know enough to determine if it’s authentic.
From these photos I grade this as a fake, with better close-ups of the rev diagnostic I might have a different opinion.
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That was my first thought too.
Check for two faint die scratches leading downward from the left bar of the T in CENT on the reverse to establish authenticity. These are two nearly vertical die-polishing lines that form a compressed letter X just left of the T in cent. These lines may be difficult to see on worn or cleaned coins. One die state does not show them at all.
Some, but not all 1955 doubled die cents show a raised lump beneath the left wheat ear, just below the left side of the letter O in OF.
The earliest state of this die also revealed several filing lines which appear raised on the coins. These are found just below the left wheat ear, but these lines disappeared from the die with subsequent repolishing.
Welcome to the forum!
The color of the coin seems a bit off. It may be the color balance in your photos or the background color. You could try some new photos on a white background to see if that helps your camera to pick up the coin colors better. From the color of the coin I would question if it had a mild cleaning or dip quite a while ago and has started to retone. The photos also make it appear flat in color with no mint lustre showing, this could also be a sign of an older cleaning. From the photos I would guess or host would give it a questionable color or cleaned tag. I could easily change my mind with different photos.
If it did grade I would guess a MS-62 RB. There are a couple of harder hits on both sides.
pumpkin orange color gives details cleaned
I would give AU details
I’ve done extensive comparing to a graded example I have. I believe it to be genuine undoubtedly.
Here are some pics with a white background. I don’t think it has been cleaned or dipped
That is a nice MS-64RB you have there!
The ungraded one! Thanks 😁 lol
The color balance & lighting in your new photos make the coin appear more natural in color but also make it appear to be maybe closer to the AU range.
Is the 64RB yours too?
The ungraded example looks AU details, questionable color (or cleaned).
Edited to add: if the last set of images is accurate, as TomB indicated, it looks as if the coin could straight grade.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think it's real and that the first set of images have an issue with color balance and overexposure. The second set of images make the color appear much more natural and I could see it as a straight-grade AU.
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The lighting is still off, your white background looks different in both photos and is kinda pinkish.
I would guess the background you used was a piece of paper?
Do you have any recommendations as far as taking pictures of coins is concerned? What to use as a backdrop ? Ect. I’ve honestly never photographed a coin
I made a quick adjustment to make the background white and this is what I got...
Sorry, I wish I could help you more. There are many folks here that can help much better than I can.
I can take a decent photo but it has taken years of practice to find what works best for me.
58 from this pic.
Tom
If it straight grades AU-55 or better I’d be very happy
I like it as a 58
Collector, occasional seller
the MasonG corrected color looks more natural -> AU55
I'm in the AU55 camp, too. More than just a rub on the high points. But not much more.
A nice about uncirculated
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Geez I badly misjudged the grade given the AU estimates here! Oh well, live and learn.
My thoughts on captureing the correct hue as seen in hand.
1. convince yourself that they match.
2. If adjustment's are nessary see #1.
3. If details are the target all's fare.
All's fair!
The emerald pearl of wisdom.
I can do without the ball and chain.
Is that a armour bearing ?
Boo !
See what experimenting with your camera could produce . Fake Luster.> @ifthevamzarockin said:
Here’s what I know
The coin definitely still has mint luster
I cannot find absolutely definitive wear on it, when I started collecting I purchased 5000 wheat cents from my local shop, sat down over a month period, and graded every single one with David langes book the complete guide to Lincoln cents on hand
It is indeed genuine
Yes he has a scratch on his head, but while viewing many pcgs tru views, I’ve noticed most have marks on Lincoln’s head and still graded
To be graded RB it needs 5%-95% red color
It will be sent in for grading in the next month to pcgs
These are just my opinions
We will see what pcgs says
It could take a while for pcgs turnaround time, at which point I’ll revive this thread
I paid $2800 for the coin
A bit of a gamble
But if I could never fail I wouldn’t try
Since you have the coin in hand what is your estimation of the grade?
If I paid $2800 for a raw coin like yours I would use the Express Service...for the extra $27 you will get your answer in 4 weeks instead of 4 months!
AU55
Young Numismatist
I’d say AU-58
Ms62 rb on a good day
That cent looks like an AU58... could be a slider... and pick up a low MS though...Cheers, RickO
Came back cleaned AU details unfortunately. I saw no signs of traditional cleaning myself. The truviews look identical to rb truview examples on coin facts. Live and learn
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I know I'm late to the party here but my gut said AU cleaned at first glance...the white background pic made it look like XF45.
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I would have guessed AU55. Too bad on the details grade, it still looks like a great coin to me!
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cleaned on copper coins is a whole different animal than silver and gold usually.
Very cool, and that doesn't mean cold for some people
Interesting, still a nice piece.
Collector, occasional seller
Looking at this photo, to me ... it looks like it was cleaned.
Tuition. For 2800, you could have had a nice PCGS graded coin which would be very marketable.
I'm inclined to say MS 63 R/B. I think MS 64 is pretty optimistic. Still a great coin to have 2 of.
But I’d like to be an able to confidently buy ungraded coins and not have to rely on TPG at least initially. I still have a lot to learn
AU Details, cleaned.
Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
If you want to confidently buy ungraded coins, that's something you're gonna have to work towards. That's not the first step in the modern era of coin collecting, it's the last.
Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
The last step is learning how to grade ungraded coins?
Collectors should know how to grade and something I’m constantly working towards, probably forever
Experience is a fancy word for mistakes I’ve made