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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's full retail for an AU coin. It's a fair price.

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes, definitely au to me

    Tom

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have took that deal. Nice one.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TPRC said:
    yes, definitely au to me

    Eek, they labeled it as unc… how do I tell the difference between unc and au when it comes to buffs?

    High point wear. Look at the horn and look at the hip. Pictures can deceive, but it appears to have evidence of wear in both places.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are no bargains in US coins.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting that you wonder about pawn shops and then go buy from another one. Then you buy from a dealer you know is sketchy without researching the nickel. The high points definitely shows wear.
    I must say I’m finding your method of learning fascinating. Almost like playing with matches when you don’t understand them very well.
    If you are enjoying yourself then carry on. If not, perhaps following your intuition is not the best method. Either way not much money and on some things I just need to see for myself.
    Carry on young numismatist. I enjoy your adventures as I’ve had a few that were similar 😁

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TPRC said:
    yes, definitely au to me

    Eek, they labeled it as unc… how do I tell the difference between unc and au when it comes to buffs?

    EEK, you read it as unc .... they labeled it as high grade
    when you buy something at auction, it is a bad policy to back out without solid reason ... eBay is not an approval service

    55 is alot higher than 8
    the rim edges look nice, so still could be BU

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    MS66MS66 Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    AU is a high grade. WTAF.

    Now you're going to renege on a trivial deal because why??

    This has NOTHING to do with being a neophyte. It is about taking responsibility for your own behavior.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TPRC said:
    yes, definitely au to me

    Eek, they labeled it as unc… how do I tell the difference between unc and au when it comes to buffs?

    They didn't label it "unc". They called it high grade. AU is a high grade.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Interesting that you wonder about pawn shops and then go buy from another one. Then you buy from a dealer you know is sketchy without researching the nickel. The high points definitely shows wear.
    I must say I’m finding your method of learning fascinating. Almost like playing with matches when you don’t understand them very well.
    If you are enjoying yourself then carry on. If not, perhaps following your intuition is not the best method. Either way not much money and on some things I just need to see for myself.
    Carry on young numismatist. I enjoy your adventures as I’ve had a few that were similar 😁

    Respectfully, judge for yourself. I don't think the dealer is in the wrong.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/394350913497?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sIdSlFtoQtK&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=I7BWTu72SVS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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    AbehunterAbehunter Posts: 286 ✭✭✭

    Thats a fair price for a buffalo with one eye

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    conrad99conrad99 Posts: 345 ✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:
    Because everyone here seems to have little respect for anyone else, and it’s disgusting.

    Like much of what you type, this is the exact opposite of the truth.

    Your drama queen act gets old fast.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @FlyingAl said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    So, you paid $10.94 for an obviously circulated, common date Buffalo nickel that was listed as "high grade", which an AU is for this series. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that you are following the same path that you followed in the last two user name accounts you had on these boards.

    At some point you have to take it upon yourself and either learn what you are doing or simply stop doing it. It's that simple.

    You say “obviously circulated” as if I’m knowledgeable in buffalo nickels. Dude, you seem like a jerk, based on your many comments on my posts and I’m getting tired of it. People like you are why nobody wants to learn about coins, and is actually the reason I stopped posting on these boards for a long time. Do me a favor and either, stop talking down on me, and help me respectfully or, I can just block you and I can just as easily get help from the people who are actually kind. I’m a learning collector, and as I’m asking questions, I’m learning. That’s why I’m posting. Being a complete jerk to me, a novice collector, isn’t helping.

    YN to YN, this post isn’t doing anything but hurting you.

    A reminder - you were looking for a deal. Deals on coins require an immense amount of knowledge. You stated yourself you don’t know much, if anything, about Buffalo nickels.

    All said and done, you can’t rely on the boards to be your education. Just take some time and research what you’re buying. Research, then buy and ask for opinions. Not the other way around.

    Sometimes, the truth stings. You don’t learn if you don’t hear the truth. @TomB is one of the best resources this board has. Don’t dismiss his advice.

    I’m not dismissing his advice. The way he writes, he means it with no respect and it’s tiring. Like I said, there’s a reason I stopped posting and coming to this board for a while. Because everyone here seems to have little respect for anyone else, and it’s disgusting. I would understand it, if he or anyone who has commented on this post was respectful, but about 50% of them haven’t, and have been rude about it.

    Look at it from their point of view. You’ve posted many threads in the past few days about coins you bought or consider buying and whether or not you got a deal.

    It didn’t appear to me, or to seemingly a lot of members, that you had any desire to do research of your own or take the advice of many others to consider only buying certified coins, and to avoid trying to make any steals at all. This can seem like you are wasting the time and opinions of the posters here. After a few threads, tempers run thin.

    One could also conclude that if you wouldn’t take the advice before, perhaps putting a bit of intensity on the advice would encourage you to take it.

    Again, slow down. Many collectors here look at hundreds, sometimes thousands of a particular coin before they decide to buy one. Don’t jump on everything you see.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pay for the coin and enjoy for what it is…a nice looking BUFFALO…next time ask your question BEFORE the auction ends…
    Learn to be a nicer person please…

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    So, you paid $10.94 for an obviously circulated, common date Buffalo nickel that was listed as "high grade", which an AU is for this series. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that you are following the same path that you followed in the last two user name accounts you had on these boards.

    At some point you have to take it upon yourself and either learn what you are doing or simply stop doing it. It's that simple.

    You say “obviously circulated” as if I’m knowledgeable in buffalo nickels. Dude, you seem like a jerk, based on your many comments on my posts and I’m getting tired of it. People like you are why nobody wants to learn about coins, and is actually the reason I stopped posting on these boards for a long time. Do me a favor and either, stop talking down on me, and help me respectfully or, I can just block you and I can just as easily get help from the people who are actually kind. I’m a learning collector, and as I’m asking questions, I’m learning. That’s why I’m posting. Being a complete jerk to me, a novice collector, isn’t helping.

    I'm surprised you would consider yourself a novice collector after being on these boards under various user names for a number of years and going through the same type of threads and posts over and over. If you want knowledge prior to bidding you can buy a RedBook or the ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins to help with grading (either might cost about $15 or so, I haven't looked lately) or you can go to some chain bookstores and browse these titles for free. Alternatively, you can simply use the PCGS Photograde Online tutorial that PCGS offers, which is not only free but is also on your phone, tablet, desktop or whatever you use to access the net. Heck, if you really want to get into a series there are myriad specialist books that will go into detail about strike characteristics and other things that can influence grading.

    You are repeating the same mistakes you made previously and no one is really helping you if they simply say "as long as you're having fun" when your responses are more in the vein of "I didn't know..." or "I thought high grade meant mint state..." or "I need help immediately about this purchase..." or "thanks for the information and I'll just cancel the sale..." or something similar. You don't have to know everything, but if you can at least help yourself with more of the basics then you won't lose small chunks of valuable funds in shipping or waste the time of sellers.

    You might think I'm a jerk, but I'll let my reputation on the boards and in person at shows speak for itself. As for your threads, if you post and I can add something to it then don't be shocked if I do. Ignore me at your own financial peril.

    I’m not asking for people to answer me the way I want. I’m asking for respect when receiving those answers, and as I’ve said 3 times already, half the comments, the ones that have been somewhat helpful, have been nothing but disrespectful. Telling me to “check my behavior” or “this is OBVIOUSLY this”. Like, how am I supposed to know this?

    And yes, I do consider myself a novice collector, considering I’ve been collecting for a whole of 4 years, don’t constantly collect, don’t have a large collection, and don’t have a vast knowledge of coins.

    Where did I ever tell you to check your behavior? I believe you may have me confused with any of a number of other forum members for that comment.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    So, you paid $10.94 for an obviously circulated, common date Buffalo nickel that was listed as "high grade", which an AU is for this series. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that you are following the same path that you followed in the last two user name accounts you had on these boards.

    At some point you have to take it upon yourself and either learn what you are doing or simply stop doing it. It's that simple.

    You say “obviously circulated” as if I’m knowledgeable in buffalo nickels. Dude, you seem like a jerk, based on your many comments on my posts and I’m getting tired of it. People like you are why nobody wants to learn about coins, and is actually the reason I stopped posting on these boards for a long time. Do me a favor and either, stop talking down on me, and help me respectfully or, I can just block you and I can just as easily get help from the people who are actually kind. I’m a learning collector, and as I’m asking questions, I’m learning. That’s why I’m posting. Being a complete jerk to me, a novice collector, isn’t helping.

    I'm surprised you would consider yourself a novice collector after being on these boards under various user names for a number of years and going through the same type of threads and posts over and over. If you want knowledge prior to bidding you can buy a RedBook or the ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins to help with grading (either might cost about $15 or so, I haven't looked lately) or you can go to some chain bookstores and browse these titles for free. Alternatively, you can simply use the PCGS Photograde Online tutorial that PCGS offers, which is not only free but is also on your phone, tablet, desktop or whatever you use to access the net. Heck, if you really want to get into a series there are myriad specialist books that will go into detail about strike characteristics and other things that can influence grading.

    You are repeating the same mistakes you made previously and no one is really helping you if they simply say "as long as you're having fun" when your responses are more in the vein of "I didn't know..." or "I thought high grade meant mint state..." or "I need help immediately about this purchase..." or "thanks for the information and I'll just cancel the sale..." or something similar. You don't have to know everything, but if you can at least help yourself with more of the basics then you won't lose small chunks of valuable funds in shipping or waste the time of sellers.

    You might think I'm a jerk, but I'll let my reputation on the boards and in person at shows speak for itself. As for your threads, if you post and I can add something to it then don't be shocked if I do. Ignore me at your own financial peril.

    I’m not asking for people to answer me the way I want. I’m asking for respect when receiving those answers, and as I’ve said 3 times already, half the comments, the ones that have been somewhat helpful, have been nothing but disrespectful. Telling me to “check my behavior” or “this is OBVIOUSLY this”. Like, how am I supposed to know this?

    And yes, I do consider myself a novice collector, considering I’ve been collecting for a whole of 4 years, don’t constantly collect, don’t have a large collection, and don’t have a vast knowledge of coins.

    Where did I ever tell you to check your behavior? I believe you may have me confused with any of a number of other forum members for that comment.

    No, I was talking about a different member… I was including everything that has been said so far in this thread

    That makes sense. Since you had included that part after a quote from me I had thought it was attributed to/directed at one of my posts.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @FlyingAl said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @FlyingAl said:

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    So, you paid $10.94 for an obviously circulated, common date Buffalo nickel that was listed as "high grade", which an AU is for this series. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that you are following the same path that you followed in the last two user name accounts you had on these boards.

    At some point you have to take it upon yourself and either learn what you are doing or simply stop doing it. It's that simple.

    You say “obviously circulated” as if I’m knowledgeable in buffalo nickels. Dude, you seem like a jerk, based on your many comments on my posts and I’m getting tired of it. People like you are why nobody wants to learn about coins, and is actually the reason I stopped posting on these boards for a long time. Do me a favor and either, stop talking down on me, and help me respectfully or, I can just block you and I can just as easily get help from the people who are actually kind. I’m a learning collector, and as I’m asking questions, I’m learning. That’s why I’m posting. Being a complete jerk to me, a novice collector, isn’t helping.

    YN to YN, this post isn’t doing anything but hurting you.

    A reminder - you were looking for a deal. Deals on coins require an immense amount of knowledge. You stated yourself you don’t know much, if anything, about Buffalo nickels.

    All said and done, you can’t rely on the boards to be your education. Just take some time and research what you’re buying. Research, then buy and ask for opinions. Not the other way around.

    Sometimes, the truth stings. You don’t learn if you don’t hear the truth. @TomB is one of the best resources this board has. Don’t dismiss his advice.

    I’m not dismissing his advice. The way he writes, he means it with no respect and it’s tiring. Like I said, there’s a reason I stopped posting and coming to this board for a while. Because everyone here seems to have little respect for anyone else, and it’s disgusting. I would understand it, if he or anyone who has commented on this post was respectful, but about 50% of them haven’t, and have been rude about it.

    Look at it from their point of view. You’ve posted many threads in the past few days about coins you bought or consider buying and whether or not you got a deal.

    It didn’t appear to me, or to seemingly a lot of members, that you had any desire to do research of your own or take the advice of many others to consider only buying certified coins, and to avoid trying to make any steals at all. This can seem like you are wasting the time and opinions of the posters here. After a few threads, tempers run thin.

    One could also conclude that if you wouldn’t take the advice before, perhaps putting a bit of intensity on the advice would encourage you to take it.

    Again, slow down. Many collectors here look at hundreds, sometimes thousands of a particular coin before they decide to buy one. Don’t jump on everything you see.

    Actually believe it or not, I do do my research before posting a coin here. My problem is, I have trouble telling the difference between grades. I can usually tell when a coin has been cleaned, but grades are my issue, especially when it comes to coins I’m not entirely knowledgeable about. Like buffalo nickels and Morgan Dollars. Is it really too much to ask for the opinion of experts? Is that NOT what they’re here for? Isn’t that why this forum exists?

    And to add, not once did I see ANYONE mention buying certified coins. I’m not saying nobody did, but I certainly didn’t see anyone say so. If so, I would’ve taken that advice. And now that you say it, I will.

    Ok. I'll add more advice.

    1) Only buy certified coins for the time being.
    2) Stop looking for deals.
    3) ONLY buy what you know well. If you can't grade it, you shouldn't be buying it.

    Let us help you then. What do you specialize in? I'll give you an example - I believe it is quite clear based on my posts that I work almost exclusively in the 1936-42 proofs realm. I rarely buy a coin outside of that realm, because I know it well (or I think so). Where do you want to spend your time and energy?

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    So, you paid $10.94 for an obviously circulated, common date Buffalo nickel that was listed as "high grade", which an AU is for this series. I might be wrong, but it seems to me that you are following the same path that you followed in the last two user name accounts you had on these boards.

    At some point you have to take it upon yourself and either learn what you are doing or simply stop doing it. It's that simple.

    You say “obviously circulated” as if I’m knowledgeable in buffalo nickels. Dude, you seem like a jerk, based on your many comments on my posts and I’m getting tired of it. People like you are why nobody wants to learn about coins, and is actually the reason I stopped posting on these boards for a long time. Do me a favor and either, stop talking down on me, and help me respectfully or, I can just block you and I can just as easily get help from the people who are actually kind. I’m a learning collector, and as I’m asking questions, I’m learning. That’s why I’m posting. Being a complete jerk to me, a novice collector, isn’t helping.

    Some people take everything personally and refuse to listen and learn. Speaking for myself, if TomB were to scold my choice of coins, I'd pay very careful attention to what he's saying.

    If you can, keep the 1936 nickel. It looks fine and it'll give you an example of an AU Buffalo nickel that you can study. Then buy a graded MS 62-63 for comparison for $30-40. I'd also strike up a relationship with a friendly, patient local dealer if you can find one, and join a coin club to get useful feedback in person. That way you'll be less likely to fly off the handle when receiving sound advice.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SummerDays3104 said:

    @TomB said:
    Numismatics might not be the hobby you were meant to enjoy, but good luck regardless.

    That. That is the number one thing I hate hearing. I’m not disregarding everything else you’ve said. I enjoy the coin part of it. What I don’t enjoy are the people. I’m going to take a break from posting and all forums in general. If I truly need help on something that I cannot figure out for myself in anyway, only then will I post. I’m not saying this as a way in my own mind to “hurt anyone” as a child might, but I’m doing it for my own good.

    Do what is in your best long-term interests and realize that the coins will always be here whenever you want to jump into the hobby. Good luck.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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