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KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

Half an hour ago...

From a distance I was 100% expecting to see little plaque or something.
Then I saw it had thickness and thought neat, a little token!
Then I saw reeding...and it looked like somehow this avoided everying in their bins apparently.

$3, yes it came home with me.
It's hotglued in.
I'm dying to know if there's a reverse/obverse?
It's definitely gold.
Or definitely plated.
:p

If no one recognizes it it's coming out for sure :blush:

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    google image gave me nothing useful.

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2022 6:11PM

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    google image gave me nothing useful.

    Yup, I tried searching just the mountain in images as well and got nothing.
    Anyone recognize the mountain?
    The eagle reminds me a bit of the Sacagawea.
    Also the base is solid, very heavy and no markings anywhere.

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry I came up with nothing also. But when enlarged the photo makes it appear to have a gilt or gold applied to it. I was looking a little more closely to the periphery of the images and rim on the 'coin'. You should be able to see or not this better.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking that it's not gold and if you pry it out you'll likely destroy both the medal and the wooden stand.

  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suspect that it is a generic "American" image.

    :)

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I'm thinking that it's not gold and if you pry it out you'll likely destroy both the medal and the wooden stand.

    No plans to pry it out...blowdryer is what I was thinking. And then gently pry it out with something softish.
    I could drip some acetone in there until it's loosened....

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Acetone might damage the wood but you might not care about that.
    Also can try getting it cold. If it is glued on then most glues when heated will stretch more before failing. This might work as you can keep applying pressure to remove. If colder, then the glue won't typically stretch as much and might fracture and then crack and fail, one way to say it. Maybe an ice pack or similar. Assuming it is glued on. One other thing, sometimes the glue is stronger than the base it is glued to. So could wind up with a separation through the wood/laminate or between both (glue and wood).

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
    .
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:
    Acetone might damage the wood but you might not care about that.
    Also can try getting it cold. If it is glued on then most glues when heated will stretch more before failing. This might work as you can keep applying pressure to remove. If colder, then the glue won't typically stretch as much and might fracture and then crack and fail, one way to say it. Maybe an ice pack or similar. Assuming it is glued on. One other thing, sometimes the glue is stronger than the base it is glued to. So could wind up with a separation through the wood/laminate or between both (glue and wood).

    It's not going to be easy...you can see some of the glue that's squeezed out at around 4:30 in the 3rd photo.
    Oh man I hope it's not Gorilla Glue lol!
    I like the freezing it idea first...

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what does the inside look like?

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    what does the inside look like?

    There's no inside...it's a solid piece of wood.
    Probably had an eagle statue or something on it I'd imagine.

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you can see the glue, then you might be able to put a cut into the glue and apply pressure at that point. This could act as a point of failure or initial fracture.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks similar to this 'Franklin Mint' medallion.

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:
    Looks similar to this 'Franklin Mint' medallion.

    Doesn't come up with your link or a search there.
    I have a large FM collection so I'd be excited if it was one of their pieces and I'm not recognizing it.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2022 9:13PM

    @Kurisu said:
    Doesn't come up with your link or a search there.
    I have a large FM collection so I'd be excited if it was one of their pieces and I'm not recognizing it.

    Lower right picture frame, under the lithograph.

    Edited to add: it is also highlighted in the written description.

    There are other current listings for these items. If you cannot make out enough details with this listing, just search for another.

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @Kurisu said:
    Doesn't come up with your link or a search there.
    I have a large FM collection so I'd be excited if it was one of their pieces and I'm not recognizing it.

    Lower right picture frame, under the lithograph.

    Thanks! I think you found it...the photo is so bad it looks like it has no detail but the design seems to match.
    Going to see if I can find it somewhere else too.

    Here's the pic from your link...

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2022 9:34PM

    @MetroD said:

    @Kurisu said:
    Doesn't come up with your link or a search there.
    I have a large FM collection so I'd be excited if it was one of their pieces and I'm not recognizing it.

    Lower right picture frame, under the lithograph.

    Edited to add: it is also highlighted in the written description.

    There are other current listings for these items. If you cannot make out enough details with this listing, just search for another.

    Oh my goodness!
    It just might be a 24k gold FM coin...oop... I see "embelished with 24k..." on your link's pics.
    Same item as your link...
    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/save-eagle-proud-free-signed-ted-480089176

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did a little more searching. Your item appears to be the display base for a porcelain eagle by Blaylock from the 'Franklin Mint'. It is from the same series as the lithographs (i.e., Alaskan Chilkat).
    Link: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/26870397_franklin-mint-porcelain-bald-eagle

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's it!

    Although, the OP's example might have had the finish stripped off.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a coin. Looks like a medallion made for decorative purposes. Most likely gold-plated brass. I wouldn't destroy that nice wooden box trying to pry that no-value medallion off of it.

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  • tcollectstcollects Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    termites or fire

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would freeze the item for a couple of hours, then pop the item off with a small pry bar. Likely just plated.... The items in the above links support the plated option. Cheers, RickO

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:
    I did a little more searching. Your item appears to be the display base for a porcelain eagle by Blaylock from the 'Franklin Mint'. It is from the same series as the lithographs (i.e., Alaskan Chilkat).
    Link: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/26870397_franklin-mint-porcelain-bald-eagle

    Nice!!! Well done thank you that's it for sure.
    What a lazy sloppy glue job they did on this one lol.
    I actually am a very long time Franklin Mint Collector...and I see no other references to this piece.
    I would imagine it actually is one sided.
    Now...do I remove the FM piece gently somehow or use the stand as is to display my finest PCGS slabs?> @Kurisu said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    what does the inside look like?

    There's no inside...it's a solid piece of wood.
    Probably had an eagle statue or something on it I'd imagine.

    Gotta toot my own horn on this one...it was a pretty good guess lol :smiley:

    Coins are Neato!

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep it as is.

    You could always use it as a coaster. :D

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Keep it as is.

    You could always use it as a coaster. :D

    For one of these?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwmUMvhy-lY - Pink Me And Bobby McGee
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

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