I think I may need a 2nd pair of eyes on these.. (Continued)
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Is this a Double of the Eagles’ Eye?
Is this planchette/die cracked?
Is this extra little bit of the wing a die error?
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Looks like an obverse scratch.
I don't see anything except maybe a hit on the eye.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1083308/calling-on-the-big-guns-please-help-me-identify-all-the-errors-on-this-94-washington-quarter#latest
I’m posting this link not to lambast you in any way, so please don’t take this the wrong way. In this thread, quite a few members wrote thoughtful, considerate responses that contained some valuable pointers about collecting errors or varieties. I think it may not be a bad idea to give that advice some reconsideration and apply it when possible.
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@DeplorableDan yes, while I agree that several people did send me some thoughtful & considerate remarks, which I appreciate greatly, several other people wrote demeaning comments that were borderline insulting to not only my query, but also to my intelligence. I disliked that those people mostly gave their biased opinions with no explanations of why they said what they wrote, but for those that did take the time to explain their answers, I have been able to learn a little more from, however, I will always learn quicker and more directly through conversation, than having to read the perspectives or opinions of a singular writer/pair of writers of any particular article on the subject.
Remember, you initially posted in a previous thread that a knowledgeable member should get some glasses. Not the best way to start things, especially when that member was trying to help you
You'll also find that members don't always have the time to provide detailed answers to every question, but even short answers that add to the consensus of others can be be very useful
@Oldhoopster Yes, you are correct, I did say that I thought he needed stronger prescription glasses. I hoped by the way it was structured, it would’ve been taken lightly with a chuckle, but I apologize if it offended you @ricko. I was not intending it to be hurtful.
@Oldhoopster I do not equate the number of posts a person has made as being equal to how knowledgeable a person is. I determine whom is knowledgeable based upon the information they share in the course of being able to properly inform or educate others, myself included, who may read or re-read through this or any thread to find the best possible answer to their questions.
What answer are you looking for?
@MasonG I am not looking for any particular answer, if you think it is, please explain why you believe that, and if you think it isn’t, please explain why you think it is not. It seemed like it might have been when I noticed it, but I’m open to interpretation and learning from the perspectives of others viewing the same area brought into question.
Pareidolia.
You've posted two threads on the topic. One would seem to be enough.
@jmlanzaf This is my bad, so i apologize, I should’ve been more specific about the planchette/die crack in question. I meant to ask about the line on the right side closest to the rim of the coin. Would you still consider that to be a scratch, or does it more closely resemble a crack? Also, would it have been caused by a malfunctioning/broken die when the planchette was first formed or after the bust was added? Or neither?
First, the word is "planchet". No big deal, but you might as well start using the correct term at some point.
Second, a die crack and a scratch can never be confused. A scratch is incuse (cut into the surface), although sometimes it can be lined on one or both sides with a raised ridge of displaced metal. A die crack, on the other hand, would be raised on the surface of the coin.
Now, if you are referring to a cracked planchet, that's a different effect altogether.
@JBK thank you for the correct term spelling, and also the further explanation of how to identify a die crack. That being said, would a die chip cause the opposite effect of a die crack? Also, I’m guessing that there are varying degrees of cracked planchets, but what indicators would suggest it is cracked based on your experience?
@MasonG i didn’t want to overload a thread with too many pictures/queries again, so to learn from a past thread mistake, I chose to break it up, making it easier to keep up with responses from each thread.
A die chip and a die crack are both voids in the die so they would be raised on the coin.
I am no expert on cracked planchets but from what I've seen on the forum, it will have been struck over so it will have that appearance. Also, I seem to hear about cracked planchets more often on older coins (18th or 19th centuries).
On 20th century coins you see laminations which sometimes have a similar effect, but they are more common on coins with alloy issues, such as some Lincoln cents and especially war nickels.
No. Both a die chip and a die crack would be raised.