🤔 New 1977 Lincoln Memorial Penny Error? 🤔
DieHardWithVengence
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Saw this and wasn’t really sure what to make of it. Is the 9 in the date directly covering the mint mark? I thought it might’ve been a D earlier, but now I’m thinking it’s actually an S? Thoughts?
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Sorry, but there is nothing unusual. You have a normal 1977 cent
Your coin does not have a mint mark.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
That is a Philadelphia minted cent, no mint mark, and there is nothing unusual about the 9, or anything else in the pictures. Just a cent, spend it. Cheers, RickO
Hey @ricko bud, I think you may need to get a stronger prescription pair of glasses🧐? Maybe an outline would help?
Compare your claim to the mm style used for 1977 cents. Not even close to MMS-004. If it doesn't match, you don't have it. (And you dont have it). Maybe you should get glasses instead of telling others they need them
http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/San Francisco Mintmark Styles.htm
A relative?
@tacocat1972
BHNC #203
No, it's covering an ear...
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
That coin is 45 years old. If, and that is a huge if, there were some anomalies in one of the dies (called a variety), it would have been discovered decades ago and you would be able to find photos of known examples to compare to.
You are wasting time meticulously scrutinizing every coin for minute anomalies. The closer you look the more you will think you found. It's called pareidolia.
Searching coins is most productive when you look briefly at every coin for a noticeable error, and then look more closely at specific dates/mm with known varieties. (Make a list for easy reference).
But, that's just my opinion. Feel free to waste your own time as you see fit.
Nothing more than circulation marks on a well circulated coin.
just a common penny nothing more, nothing less
shut up or put up i care little
The Forum does not need that kind of attitude. @DieHardWithVengence , if you want help from knowledgeable people, you should be on your best behavior.
Asking a question in good faith (regardless of how "way out there" the question may be) is fine; coming back with such a caustic reply when you're told, nicely and repeatedly, that there's nothing there, is not fine.
@DieHardWithVengence... My eyesight is 20/20 corrected.... You have a plain cent, no numismatic premium - no error or anomaly. Cheers, RickO
But great pictures by the way.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
You can draw on your photos until the cows come home, but there is still no mint mark on your coin.
When you come to a fork in the road, you should take it.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
You're relatively new here and you think you have a right to make a stupid comment about someone.
You Don't!
Pete
Not an error. The Philadelphia cents have never had a mm excepting for 2017-P. Sorry, worth only 1 cent, best to spend it but keep on trucking--(trying).
The only S mint cent in 1977 was for the Proof, which this one isn’t. If you could find a 1977 Proof without the S you would have something.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Spend it.
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And exactly how would that happen, given how hubs and dies are made?
Pareidolia. Please Google it and understand the meaning. Your brain will always try to take random marks and turn them into something familiar. Stare at the scratches in an asphalt surface and you will see all kinds of imaginary letters and numbers and things. Stare at clouds and you will see animals and people and things.
@Oldhoopster you don’t think that the overall shape and or spread of the metal would change based on what was stamped over it, especially since it is sustains other damage and wear during circulation?
Two cents melt value. Definitely worth saving.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
@DieHardWithVengence
What you outlined as an S is much larger than a mint mark for the year, and no it won't spread and change shape.
@ifthevamzarockin thank you for an actual explanation and not just your negative opinion of why it couldn’t be what I thought it was. I appreciate your directness.
What you're proposing would occur in the hardened tool steel of the working die. The metallurgy doesn't lend itself to distortion. Look at the numerous examples of repunched mintmarks and you'll see there is almost no distortion and spreading. If it doesn't occur on hundreds of RPMs, why would it suddenly occur on your coin?
Before you start suggesting that experienced members get glasses, you should really take the time to learn and understand the minting and die making processes. Making wild, inaccurate guesses isn't very helpful
Also, did you take the time to read the posts from knowledgeable and experienced members? They take their time to help new collectors. The S mm was ONLY USED ON PROOF COINS AT SAN FRANCISCO FROM 1975 to date. Your coin is A business strike from Philly. It isn't possible for a Philly business strike to be stamped with a San Francisco mm. Take the time to read what other experienced members say. The consensus opinions are very accurate.