Circulated-AU-Slider-UNC? Morgan

al410

Common date Morgan Dollar, just been trying to get better at identifying what a slider is.

Al

jmlanzaf

Low end UNC.

ricko

I agree with @jmlanzaf ... but it might get 'details damaged' due to the mark over the eye.... cannot be sure of severity from the picture. Cheers, RickO

291fifth

Probably an MS60 Morgan due to the many very distracting marks on the face of Liberty.

TomB

Looks MS and without luster impairment.

AUandAG

MS61 or 2

DennisH

Low M.S.

SurfinxHI

Ms 61

BillJones

It's real MS-60, as opposed to a "slider" which might get the grade.

coastaljerseyguy

Agree looks uncirculated - MS60, 61 if you're lucky. Looks like it took many hits in the mint bag.

coinkat

MS.

My question is that the coin has the look of being in one of those US GSA cello packs. And if that is what we have here, it seems the US GSA cello pack might trump whatever the grade may be. On the otherhand, if it is a cello pack from a national coin dealer... well then carryon with the grade eval

al410

Yes gsa soft pack, those cards they put inside do not really mean much because any card can be put in the envelope and I mainly looked at it as borderline between UNC and slider and was leaning towards UNC.
Al

WCC

The grade is secondary to the coin's eye appeal or in this case, lack of it.

al410

WCC- I was not asking for a grade but was seeking opinions on sliders compared to unc, also I find it to be a decent looking coin. Not all collectors can afford or are seeking perfect looking coins.

PeakRarities

@al410 said:
I was not asking for a grade but was seeking opinions on sliders compared to unc, also I find it to be a decent looking coin. Not all collectors can afford or are seeking perfect looking coins.

From my understanding, I believe a “slider” is basically an AU58 that almost appears to be MS and has solid eye appeal, but the rub/wear on the high points pushes it into an AU grade. Not sure if the nomenclature is from the coin “sliding” in an out of an album causing the wear, or the possibility of it “sliding” into an ms grade.

Your coin IS an ms grade, there’s not really any “rub”, it just has distracting bag marks. Maybe one of the other members can post a picture of a “slider” they have

al410

Thanks DeplorableDan, that's how I see it to. I have seen many MS coins with a lot of bag marks . Seems like a close call?
Al

Cougar1978

MS60

Mr_Spud

That’s a bag marked uncirculated coin. It got hit by the other uncirculated Morgan’s either at the mint or in the mint bags and got banged up. A slider AU would have wear on the highest points on the coin, which this one doesn’t. I usually look for wear on the eagles breast feathers and those plantlike thingys above Liberty’s ear a bit to the right for signs of circulation wear because those are the high points that start to wear down the quickest when coins circulate. I think those plant like thingys are cotton bolls or something like that if you don’t like calling them thingys 😉

Mr_Spud

Or even better, look at the high points as described on this photo below from
https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/how-to-grade-morgan-dollars-768394
They didn’t highlight the cotton bolls, so what they highlighted is even higher. I look at that hair area that’s highlighted but sometimes if the coin isn’t fully struck it can look like wear. If the wear shows up on the cotton bolls it’s even more worn so for sure not uncirculated

Mr_Spud

Here’s a couple of my AU sliders

Mr_Spud

And here’s a NGC AU58 PL slider

al410

Thanks Mr_Spud that is a big help
Good chance the 1890 would have fooled me
Al

DelawareDoons

62.