Washington quarter Type B reverse?
derryb
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UPDATE 1:
Turns out the pics are of a proof. Found out the mint sets are in fact proof sets. I assumed that because they were in yellow mint envelopes they were unc. sets. Now I know what the "P.C" next to the year on the front of the envelope means. LOlo. But I did research and learned about Type B Washington reverses. I also learned, once again, not to assume when it comes to coins.
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Appears to meet the diagnostics, but I'm new to these. Pulled 20 of these same reverses from 58-64 unc. cellaphane mint sets. Mirror fields, kinda frosty. What say ye? Throw me a grade on the one pictured.
Same coin:
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Definitely, the "B" reverse.
Congrats.
The grade? I have to leave that up to someone else.
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According to my reference on Washington Quarters reverse Varieties the proofs of 1937 to 1964 all came with the type B reverse. Mint state type B reverses are rare.
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so, 20 of these from 20 mint sets is is a score?
The Frankies are all 66 or better. two PL Jeffersons. At least 17 full band dimes and at least 15 full step Jeffersons. Lincolns all look high grade but not worth a grading fee. Coins are the best I've ever seen in a mint set of these years.
Picked up the sets (philly only) for $15 ea. at estate sale.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
it's not a proof coin. I removed it from a Philly unc. set sealed in cellephane. My research says the reverse of the Type 2 unc. was struck with proof dies.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
Sure looks like a proof coin to me... show us images of the Franklin.
aren't these made with the type B reverse like mentioned above?
i know the type B on the business strikes are good, in really 64/65 and above with some years being down right common. now a good toner in say 63 or something would bring a premium but most in 63 (unless covid has pushed the prices up like a lot of things, i woudn't really even mess with too many type B in low unc. just a couple years.
i'd check the pops and sales prices.
Looks like proof rims
I have not seen cameo quarters in PL ... which of the following shows the emblem/plastic token found in your sets?
turns out you are correct, sir. Apology is in order..
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
the philly token on the right. See update to OP.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
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anyone that doesn't run into this, isn't playing the game hard enough.
i forget the date run to these but i THINK they start in 56 and end in like 61 or so?
Coinweek: 1956-1964
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
You will occasionally run across a type B quarter in the 59 and 60 mint sets. I've been told they are sometimes found in other years as well, but I've never come across them. They vary in rarity, but the 56 is the least common of the 9 years.
There are quite a few (100's?) 1957 type Bs from mint sets that have attractive toning grading 65 and higher.
@derryb ... Nice quarters.... Not a bad price for proof sets. Most I have seen (at gun shows, no coin shows around here) have been priced at $30. Cheers, RickO
This may be a 1959 type B reverse Washington quarter in a sealed mint set along with a type 2 reverse eagle on this 1959 Franklin half in the same set. Hope the photos are clear enough to tell.(https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/0y/hpnb8olxy5l6.jpeg "")
The 1964d
Type "C" Reverse
Is the money pick!
The one with fine detailed lines in its feathers.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.These may be type B reverses on the 1960 and 1963 respectively.
The type B is an overall deeper and stronger hub impression than the type A. It was meant for Proof production only, but some were used as business strikes. The situation is analogous to the Close and Wide AM reverses on the Lincoln cents. The clearest PUP is the space between the E and S in STATES.
I've pulled a number of Type B reverses from rolls of nominally circulating silver Washington quarters. I am now thinking that at least some of these coins are proofs. Are the rim sharpness and field reflectivity the best diagnostics to determine proof vs. business strikes? Are there any other PUPs?
its been a while but when i helped a top registry guy build his variety set, i remember the 59 frankie had a transitional reverse with the 3 feathers. it seems like there was something else about it but it isn't coming to me.
nice type b and frankie in that mint set. seeing high-grade attributed stuff is great but seeing it in the OGP, now that is something.
having the type b and the frankie has gotta make that a bit of a rare bird, considering both coins and the amount of those sets being cut open.
@wondercoin
is that also the type of packaging you stated is prone to some spotting, preventing high-grade status?
I've been collecting type B quarters for years. There are many pickup points including the leaf connecting to the A in dollar as well as the one leaf below the arrow points comes very close to touching the arrows. I've found some with somewhat of a proof finish but these are rare. The 60 and 63 posted by jfriedM are definitely type Bs.
Pete
that is good.
would it also help to show the tailfeathers since the type c has those distinguishable lines?
Note that they were used for business strikes after being retired (worn) from proof use.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
Oh yeah, I agree. But that's all that I have in my "humble" picture archive
Pete.
Not a great picture, but shows the tail and more detailed leaves
Sorry. The picture above is a 1964 D type C.