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  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine details,Environmental damage

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF Details, corrosion, damaged.
    It's a great low grade example of the type but i don't think it would straight grade ;)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like environmental damage, but still, IMO, any coin from that period is a great collector piece. I like the history. Cheers, RickO

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if and it didn't come back in a bodybag for a couple different reasons, i'd say like the others some vf/xf details corrosion or tooled/smoothed.

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would love some help id'ing the Cohen number. It appears to me to be a C-3B. Due to the upper right berry on the left vine.
    Jim


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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine details

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2022 6:46AM

    Fine sharpness, details grade because of environmental damage.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details, very close to VF.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Early Half Cents are very difficult to find nice... I'd say this one has F15 details, Environmental Damage.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF details, corroded, cleaned and damaged

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, about my C-3b designation. The only photo I could find of a 1794 Liberty Cap Half Cent with a top right side berry on the left wreath was a poor photo in Dr. Manley's book on Half Cent Varieties that might show a berry, but then other diagnostics deny the C-3b designation. Hopefully, someone capable of making this determination will chime in, as I have been unable to find a single variety with a berry in this position of top right side of left wreath.
    Thanks,
    Jim


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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the F Details crowd.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12 details, porous.

    Dave

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  • MrHalfcentMrHalfcent Posts: 9 ✭

    Unfortunately this coin is a fake. 1794 Liberty Cap obverse combined with a stemless reverse only see on 1804 C-12, 1804 C-13, 1805 C-1, and 1806 C-1.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2022 8:46AM

    @MrHalfcent said:
    Unfortunately this coin is a fake. 1794 Liberty Cap obverse combined with a stemless reverse only see on 1804 C-12, 1804 C-13, 1805 C-1, and 1806 C-1.

    i'm not the expert but after this comment, i did look up what i think is a full set by cohen numbers, with no 1794 being listed w/o stems.

    so, until proven otherwise, i'm with MrHalfCent

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is also none I can find with a berry on the upper right side of the wreath, got so caught up with that and did not notice the stemless condition. Thank you @Mr.Halfcent
    Jim


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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrHalfcent said:
    Unfortunately this coin is a fake. 1794 Liberty Cap obverse combined with a stemless reverse only see on 1804 C-12, 1804 C-13, 1805 C-1, and 1806 C-1.

    Yes, I got caught not thinking out of the box on this one. I need to stop doing that. Someone asked for a Cohen number, and I couldn't attribute it because none of the reverses matched. I was too much in the box and should have seen the missing stems on the wreath. I saw the obverse as a 1794 C-2.

    The only saving grace is that I don't buy coins like this.

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  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes :lol: I didn't even check the cohen numbers for this one, just automatically assumed it was real, theres no immediate red flags, got to be careful out there!

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