Grading opinions? Full head? Maybe counterfeit?
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Standing liberty quarters are not my specialty by any means....
In your opinion what does this quarter grade and would it get a full head designation.
(I see the green on the back and think acetone will get them right off.)
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Acetone might take that off but if it has turned 'hard' then it becomes a more difficult challenge. Also if it comes off but has been there for some time, then you might have a light spot where the green was. Also if you have green spot like that, then you might have some film like residue covering other parts of the coin depending on how it was stored previously and things.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed
RLJ 1958 - 2023
I think it will get the FH designation. Nice old quarter, but get the acetone on it. Cheers, RickO
The coin is a full head example (as are the large majority of Type 1 Standing Liberty quarters) and looks to have AU details.
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PCGS only, FH is 8270 (416 '16 + 7854 '17) and non-FH is 5593 (1619 '16 + 3974 '17).
I didn't think this could be right but it is. I'm sure there are a bunch of raw 17s that have never been submitted because of condition issues but for graded examples, there you are.
Seriously, thank you, as I should have posted “as are the large majority of 1917 Type 1 Standing Liberty quarters”.
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I doubt that was made by the us mint
Is it possible to see this coin at the Virginia Beach show this weekend?
When PCGS first started they didn’t designate FH on type 1 Standing quarters. And a lot of type 1 pieces were graded back then. At some point they started the FH designation on type 1 pieces and the vast majority were labeled as such since then.
Not knowing this info gives a person a very inaccurate understanding of the pop reports.
I still say the coin is not a genuine US Mint product (based on the photos)
apologies to go a bit off-topic
but those reading this thread and looking at this coin, take note of the one in another thread that has nearly this same look BUT notice the date on this one vs that other one. i still have yet to see an authentic one of these with those big, wide, flat numerals. this example is in-line with what i see on CF and other sources.
this one also appears to have a nice big chunk of pvc on the reverse k6. there may be some elsewhere i'm not seeing or too minor from the images. oh, i see another spot on the eagle's right wing. (viewer's left)
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Stars on the obverse are very crude. They’re almost all different. They remind me of those bumper stickers with the stick families. Dad, mom, children. All different sizes.
And the R in TRUST…what’s up with that!
E Pluribus Unum on reverse is very crude as well.
Q in quarter, as well as most of the other reverse lettering isn’t quite up to US Mint standards…
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So some are thinking this is fake.......
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I think it’s possible that the differences you pointed out in your previous post are due to the imaging.
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OP vs my '17 MS63FH. I dunno?
for my part, i know i brought it up, kinda but was more just comparing that with the overall look of your coin is similar to another in an active thread that is in question. for my part i'm not so intimately acquainted with the SLQ series that i can say one way or another a lot of times w/o having high-res examples to compare to and i'm kinda out of energy for the day but there seems to be an rather interesting comp above this post with some rather concerning differences.
what do you think about your coin? bought from a questionable source? paid a really low price? owned for a really long time?
some of the differences can be explained by different dies but at the very least that Q on the reverse is a great place to start because it is so obvious.
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So I went looking for one that was a little different and this one kind of is in that area.
The date is a little flat, the stars a little inconsistent on obv, the R in trust has a longer thinner leg (this does vary in several photos). There is some variance in these from the TV.
The 'A' on the reverse on the ones I quickly looked at, still has the left leg a little thinner than the right.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed
RLJ 1958 - 2023
Well once I dip it, if the green stiff comes off I'm going to send it to ANACS with a large error submission and I guess we will see what happens.
If it comes back fake. Then it will go into my book of fakes for others to study and learn from. (Including me)
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More of these 1917 type I quarters grade FH than not from what I've seen.
Here is mine to compare. PCGS 63FH