OGH Holders - A Cherrypicker's Dream **UPDATE - TrueViews**
FlyingAl
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I can't believe my luck - I've made the biggest cherry of my 10 year collecting history. I'm super happy!
I always browse 1913 nickels for a certain variety - the FS-1802. I have had great luck with them, but unfortunately all of the ones I've managed to find have been details coins. Not anymore!
I found this 1913 T1 PCGS MS64 nickel, and naturally I checked it and saw what appeared to be the variety. I snatched it up for $120, knowing it was worth the shot. It arrived today, and I can confirm the coin is the FS-1802! The best thing about this is that I have a guaranteed grade, and therefore can price the coin rather accurately. The last FS-1802 to sell was a MS64 on eBay for $1080. Curiously, a 64 is on GC currently for auction so that's an auction I'm watching closely as this variety rarely comes up for sale.
Pictures, please excuse the phone pictures, I'll have to get out my camera sometime this weekend. 
Next step for this coin is going off to our hosts for a reholder and variety attribution.
UPDATE - The coin's cert page now shows this coin as a T1 DDR FS-1802!
Coin Photographer.
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GREAT pickup!! Outstanding!! 👍🏻 👍🏻
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Congratulations! Must feel great to score a big win.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Since I fund my collection on cherrypicks this is huge! I should be able to pick up one or two of the quarters I need for my 1936-42 set with the proceeds.
Coin Photographer.
Congratulations, I’m VERY happy for you!!!
Just one more example reminding me that it’s VERY likely that I’ve given away thousands of dollars over the years as I sell my dupes without taking the time to do the research to see if any are valuable varieties. I guess I’m known as the CBF (Cherrypickers Best Friend)!
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Sharp eyes and a nice score. Well done!
Congrats! I need to get that book everyone's talking about.
Young Numismatist
Well played Sir!
Congratulations but things are going to get tougher. 100 additional people now looking for 1913 nickels in this variety…
He who knows he has enough is rich.
Congratulations on a great find. I have one minor quibble, however - this might have been a better thread title:
“ Unattributed Varieties - A Cherrypicker's Dream” 😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Perfect! And BTW - I think you deserve the PCGS forum acculade - YOU SUCK!
WS
Very nice catch..... slabbed, a good grade, and a super cherry pick. Congratulations, Cheers, RickO
nice pick up. hope you really do well with it
These are the times I would gladly give up the OGH for a variety! Nice find.
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great pick. you should get it in a retro holder or a 35th anniversary holder.
Awesome pick! Congrats on the find!
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This is going to read really weird, but I wonder if the liquidity is actually harmed by the fact the coin is in an OGH? I haven't checked, but assume this is a variety needed in a registry set and, if so, the OGH would seem to preclude adding this coin. Obviously, you could have it re-holdered with the variety, but I was just thinking.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Absolutely. I will be sending it for a reholder.
The OGH is only nice in this situation for two reasons. The first is that more than a few varieties were discovered after the OGH stopped, so all of the coins in OGH holders have a chance of being one of those varieties. The second is that you have a guaranteed grade and therefore a very easy way to value the coin without having to worry about what it will come back from the graders as.
Unfortunately, the OGH will be lost in this situation.
Coin Photographer.
Having the Variety spelled out on the label as VERIFIED by PCGS will not only make it easier to sell, but if the variety is not listed on the label at the time of sale, some potential buyers may not bid. A listed variety can then be easier to find by buyers via search filters. Even having just ONE extra serious buyer can make a difference in the proceeds of a sale down the road! Smart move!
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Nice find!
I am usually in favor of preserving the OGH but, in this case, I would definitely send it in, as well!
Congrats!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
If you're a picker, it's about the pick. Age of plastic, TPG company, Stickers, - phewy all that, - it's the pick. The premium for the variety will most likely be significantly worth more than than a holders age or anybody's sticker. If PCGS issues the same serial number, it can be restickered because CAC does not care about a variety designation, only that the coin and serial number match. I have done it to 3 coins so far.
WS
That is DEFINITELY "YOU SUCK" worthy!
Congrats!
USAF (Ret) 1974 - 1994 - The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. Remembering RickO, a brother in arms.
Thanks! How many “YOU SUCK”s does it take to make it official?
Coin Photographer.
I can’t find the answer in the forum’s posted “Rules and Guidelines”😉 but I think that all it takes is one.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Man, you have an eagle eye. I'm having trouble seeing the variety even with the magnified images! Congrats
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I made this to see if I can help you look for it. The red circles mark the doubling. The original unedited photo can be found in my OP at the top.
Here are Variety Vista's images:
Coin Photographer.
Great find! Congratulations!
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Very nice good eye.👍🏼
Hoard the keys.
Very nice. Congratulations!
I had the same trouble. The PCGS coins on their website all show clear doubling of the last S in Pluribus. I don't see that on your coin. However, I do see the other doubling and I do agree that it is the DDR.
Tom
Pricing update:
A MS64 PCGS coin of this variety went for $975 ($1,097 with the fee) tonight on GC. Seems that the pricing in my OP is consistent with this result.
Coin Photographer.
I’m glad for you some people will pay that much for a nearly impossible to see obscure so called variety.
I guess that’s why, like you, I’m among the group of collectors not interested in acquiring varieties! But with that said, as I noted above, if we don’t learn to recognize them, it costs us money! I’m convinced I’ve probably lost in the four figures (hopefully the low four figures, lol) over the years in the dupes I’ve sold.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Bump for update.
Coin Photographer.
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i know it isn't the same as pcgs but if you get cool stuff in older holders but it would benefit from an updated variety, you can consider VSS as they just put a sticker with the relevant info on it. highly recommended.
gratz on your coin/attribution
Nice job on the attribution!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
@FlyingAl is a YN on the move! Nicely done Buddy!
I figured I'd also update on the plan for this coin while I can. I plan to send it to GC and @ianrussell once I have it back, along with two other cherrypicks.
I had a brief email conversation with Ian today, he was helping me with consignment forms for a particular coin that I needed attributed and restickered with CAC before sale. It was a very pleasant interaction and I was particularly impressed with the customer service.
Coin Photographer.
Not a lot of activity on these in the last several years except for the 63 that sold in August. IMO, yours is significantly better looking. Best of luck on a very, very nice cherrypick, I think $1000 is pretty obtainable and may well go higher!
Comparing your 64 with the 63 sold in August:
@lermish
Actually, a 64 sold at GC for $975 ($1,097 with the fee) on October 2, 2022. I think my 64 looks a little nicer than the one that sold in October, but they do say ownership adds a point
. Thanks for the well wishes!
Coin Photographer.
*Not a lot of activity from auction houses reporting to PCGS. I didn't recall your original comment about GC/eBay results.
As a buffalo nut I congratulate you! Always great to get something like this! I will share with you another 1913 type
one buffalo nickel story very similar to yours here. I was browsing 1913 type one nickels on ebay and came across a toned
unc 1913 type one that the lister said had "weak front legs" His pix were not good enough to determine whether
or not it was anything special. But I took a flyer on it and purchased for $120. It did have a make an offer but I
instantly thought that if it is something special then maybe someone is looking at it at the same time as I am, so I just
pulled the trigger and waited. When it came and I opened the package I was staring at a niceley toned unc 1913 type one
three and one half legged buffalo nickel! I got it slabbed by pcgs and then put it on flea-bay. It eventually sold for
$3170. The grade pcgs gave it was "uncirculated details spot removed" Could hardly tell that the little ole spot was
there but I really could not complain. And I am sure that the buyer was happy with it. The moral of the story as with
the OPS story here is "always keep your eyes open"!
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
@BUFFNIXX
I've seen a picture of that coin, but you can't just tell that story and leave us hanging (I will gladly see a picture of that coin), so feel free to post a picture!
Coin Photographer.
OK
here is is
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
The spot that gave this coin a details grade is right above the 3 in the date.
You might just call it an MS60
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
TrueViews for the coin just appeared:
Coin Photographer.
Looks excellent. 👍
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