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Lincoln Cent NEWP! 1909-S

ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I also got this yesterday. I couldn’t pass it up.

What’s cool is that it’s got a really fine wood grain toning, and a LOT of red left!

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  • hbarbeehbarbee Posts: 191 ✭✭✭

    An attractive coin. I believe the weak strike is what kept it from a 65. If you zoom in on the Max version of the TrueView you can see the unusual wood grain detail. You can also see a surface feature floating above the first 9 that looks like a letter "D".

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland ... That is indeed a nice cent... Good find.... Plenty of red left there. Cheers, RickO

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2022 12:29PM

    very nice
    Keep it in the "NGC Box" :)

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gotta love that early copper mixture! Nice. Peace Roy

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My post disappeared! :(

    The coin is spectacular. I love it and you have been on a terrific roll lately.

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice cent.

    It looks similar to a 1909 S MS64RB cent I had graded earlier this year. Mine has a little more color.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hbarbee said:
    An attractive coin. I believe the weak strike is what kept it from a 65. If you zoom in on the Max version of the TrueView you can see the unusual wood grain detail. You can also see a surface feature floating above the first 9 that looks like a letter "D".

    You are right hb, it does appear to be a "D". Pareidolia again, I suppose.
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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Keep 'em coming!! You're on a roll!!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everybody! :)

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2022 5:46PM

    @asheland said:
    I also got this yesterday. I couldn’t pass it up.

    What’s cool is that it’s got a really fine wood grain toning, and a LOT of red left!

    Man o man! That's a Harsche die #6 1909-S. Very, very scarce and yours is choice uncirculated!
    How much were you sayin' you want for it? >:)

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's whispering to mr1874 :D

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everybody. :) 👍

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, congrats on acquiring it!

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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice example of what a Red-Brown coin should look like.

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You're on fire with all your recent pickups.

    Nice score on this one.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's whispering to mr1874

    It's definitely talking to me. Die #6 was the last one used for 1909-S Lincoln obverse. Most 1909-S Lincolns from die #6 have the old reverse (shallow valley 'N'). Others, relatively few, have the new reverse (deep valley 'N'). The OP 1909-S appears to have old reverse. ALL Harsche obverse die #6 1909-S's are scarce. An uncirculated 1909-S from die #6, as the OP's is, is a special, exciting coin. Obverse die #6 with new reverse is scarcest of all 1909-S Lincolns extant, condition aside, however. As you know, the most famous what-turned-out-to-be-counterfeit 1909-S V.D.B. this board has ever seen, called the whispering one by yours truly because of its faint V.D.B., was from genuine Harsche die #6 obverse and had a "new," also genuine, reverse.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 said:
    It's whispering to mr1874

    It's definitely talking to me. Die #6 was the last one used for 1909-S Lincoln obverse. Most 1909-S Lincolns from die #6 have the old reverse (shallow valley 'N'). Others, relatively few, have the new reverse (deep valley 'N'). The OP 1909-S appears to have old reverse. ALL Harsche obverse die #6 1909-S's are scarce. An uncirculated 1909-S from die #6, as the OP's is, is a special, exciting coin. Obverse die #6 with new reverse is scarcest of all 1909-S Lincolns extant, condition aside, however. As you know, the most famous what-turned-out-to-be-counterfeit 1909-S V.D.B. this board has ever seen, called the whispering one by yours truly because of its faint V.D.B., was from genuine Harsche die #6 obverse and had a "new," also genuine, reverse.

    Very interesting information! I appreciate you posting it. :)

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  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a beautiful coin! :)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 is there a reference book this information is in?

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yepers, that is a nice one!

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    B)

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fd7W7w5kcdor4hdr5

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    @mr1874 is there a reference book this information is in?

    Yes, it's an old out of date book with lots of misinformation that caused @mr1874's imagination to run wild on a 2 month troll of the forum.

    Don't you remember or did you miss it?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @asheland said:
    @mr1874 is there a reference book this information is in?

    Yes, it's an old out of date book with lots of misinformation that caused @mr1874's imagination to run wild on a 2 month troll of the forum.

    Don't you remember or did you miss it?

    Ah! :D I must have missed that one.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    Ah! :D I must have missed that one.

    Lucky you! :D

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :D

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You would be better off asking any of the other forum trolls about a 1909 cent than asking mr1874. :D

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I definitely missed these threads. :D
    Granted I don’t really do much with Lincoln cents. This was just a really cool coin so I picked it up. 👍

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "I definitely missed these threads."

    If you want to torture yourself I can send you some links. :D

    "This was just a really cool coin so I picked it up."

    Yep, a nice one indeed, congrats! :)

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome cent. Love the look.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    "I definitely missed these threads."

    If you want to torture yourself I can send you some links. :D

    "This was just a really cool coin so I picked it up."

    Yep, a nice one indeed, congrats! :)

    Actually, yes, send me some links, cause I’m curious lol

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats!!

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!! Congrats!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    Actually, yes, send me some links, cause I’m curious lol

    PM sent :D

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    I definitely missed these threads. :D
    Granted I don’t really do much with Lincoln cents. This was just a really cool coin so I picked it up. 👍

    You picked a winner. Very attractive piece. If you ever entertain thought of selling or trading send me a PM and we can talk about it. The main reference to refer to re 1909-S cents is "Detecting Altered Coins, 5th Edition, by Bert Harsche. Harsche lists, with images, all known obverse die varieties of 1909-S Lincoln cents and 3 of the 4 known 1909-S V.D.B. obverse die varieties. 1909-S V.D.B. PCGS Die #1 ('S' high left, tilts cw a great deal) is so scarce that it had not been seen by Harsche by publication day of his 5th, or 6th edition for that matter, of his counterfeit detection guide so because he didn't see it, he doesn't list it. The information in Harsche re 1909-S Lincoln cents without V.D.B. is valid, as valid now in 2022 as when his 5th edition was published in 1973. Harsche's "Detecting Altered Coins" has withstood the test of time, in other words. Don't listen to anyone who tells you different with their nonsense like "outdated." They are naysayers who have no basis in fact to discredit counterfeit detection pioneer Bert Harsche's work.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 "Harsche lists 3 of the 4 known 1909-S V.D.B."

    "had not been seen by Harsche by publication day of his 5th, or 6th edition for that matter, of his counterfeit detection guide so because he didn't see it, he doesn't list it."

    "Don't listen to anyone who tells you different with their nonsense like "outdated."

    Harsche only listed 3 of the 4 currently known mint mark positions, this means the information is outdated. ;)

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, Harsche's 1973 information on 1909-S Lincolns without V.D.B., which is what we are talking about here, can't be called "outdated" now can it? ;)

    Have you bought yourself an S V.D.B. yet? If not, I recommend you do so soon before moon prices are being asked for even a lowly condition like mine example of the holy grail of Lincoln cents.

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s funny cuz I got zapped by an electric fence the other day

    Martin

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice 1909-S!!! But my brain is sprained from the strange sideways turns in this thread. I keep hearing whispers telling me to cross the streams.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool 😎 score

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cross the streams.

    Cross the streams and you'll both get zapped.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everybody! :)

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I made a video, LOTS of red! B)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZi6_smNlz8

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    I made a video, LOTS of red! B)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZi6_smNlz8

    Lovely <3

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you! :)

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both 1909-S coins pictured are BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

    GrandAm :)

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