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The Color of Gold

PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

Gold coins come in all different shades. I'm always interested to read the descriptive language used to describe color on dealer websites and auction listings.

Some are pretty straightforward e.g., yellow, orange. Others evoke food or other senses e.g., honey, lemon, rose. And there are all sorts of other commonly used but maybe not commonly defined descriptive terms - glowing!

Is there any kind of common reference or definition to describe coin color? If not, should there be? Pictures will always be more descriptive than words, but digital images will show differently depending on the viewer's screen. I wonder if it would be beneficial to create some kind of color reference.

What are your favorite descriptive terms for color vs those that are... less helpful?

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rose, honey, amber are gold hues I find attractive. Nice coins. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pure gold is the standard. After that, any alloy material will affect color. That is why there is - for example - rose gold or white gold. They are alloyed with copper, silver and maybe some zinc.... Then, the amount of alloy will also affect the shade of color. So attempting any sort of standard color guide would not be helpful. Also, a gold alloy, such as copper, can make a gold coin appear to tarnish... Gold does not tarnish - but copper and silver will. Cheers, RickO

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola... That is interesting.... Thanks for posting that chart. Cheers, RickO

  • justindanjustindan Posts: 746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola that's an awesome reference. Thanks.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have never heard of this color but I pick it from my gold color chart. Beautiful match, at least on my monitor.
    Jim


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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 8:56AM

    Found this info on another site by RWB
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    1630Boston, member on another forum, posted “Please tell me what causes the difference in the color of Gold Coins.” This was based on an 1887 letter in the NNP US Mint files and transcribed by NNP. Another member posted a link to a web site that was presented as answering the question.

    First, collectors should understand that multiple factors affect the original color of US gold coins, Second, after about 1847 all U.S. gold coins were made from refined metal of 0.999 fine. Third, objective evaluation of coin color requires attention to detail and neutral viewing conditions. Always evaluate the color of a coin under standard daylight and 18% gray backgrounds. All uncontrolled light must be blocked, otherwise the color your eye perceives will be inaccurate.

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  • PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Boston, fantastic info thanks for sharing!

    When I started the thread what I had in mind was not so much metallurgy but the colorful language that is used to describe coins.

    When I see food-related words in particular it grabs my attention and gives another dimension to the description. Am I more likely to buy a champagne-gold coin vs a greenish-yellow-gold coin? I don't know, but it makes it more fun.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found this website and searched down to gold color and shade names.
    So some names for gold colors but who knows these colors?

    http://gold.colorcode.is

    Home page
    http://colorcode.is/

    Similar Colors by Name
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    Gold (metallic)
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    Gold Fusion
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    Old gold
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    UCLA Gold
    University of California Gold
    USC Gold
    Vegas gold
    Metallic gold

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    Gold (web) (Golden)
    Golden
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    USC Gold
    Safety yellow
    Vivid yellow
    Jonquil
    Banana yellow
    Deep lemon
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

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  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just in case there is anybody else like me who can't remember how to read those triangle charts in there head. Here is one with the lines and the chart numbers going in the same direction as the one above.

    So if at 60% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have 10% silver and 30% copper.
    At 40% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have again 10% silver and 50% copper.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
    .
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the variety of colors that are seen...

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 2:21PM

    @lilolme said:
    Just in case there is anybody else like me who can't remember how to read those triangle charts in there head. Here is one with the lines and the chart numbers going in the same direction as the one above.

    So if at 60% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have 10% silver and 30% copper.
    At 40% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have again 10% silver and 50% copper.

    Another way to think about it is a plane in 3 dimensions (AU, AG, CU).
    This plane contains all the points which add to 100%.

    If it was only 2 dimensions (say AU, CU), it would be a downhill diagonal line with all the pairs of AU,CU that add to 100%.

    In Econ this line, plane or hyperplane is the budget constraint, where the % or $ of income spent on all the different goods adds to 100%.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:

    @lilolme said:
    Just in case there is anybody else like me who can't remember how to read those triangle charts in there head. Here is one with the lines and the chart numbers going in the same direction as the one above.

    So if at 60% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have 10% silver and 30% copper.
    At 40% gold move horizontally to first intersection and you have again 10% silver and 50% copper.

    Another way to think about it is a plane in 3 dimensions (AU, AG, CU).
    This plane contains all the points which add to 100%.

    If it was only 2 dimensions (say AU, CU), it would be a downhill diagonal line with all the pairs of AU,CU that add to 100%.

    In Econ this line, plane or hyperplane is the budget constraint, where the % or $ of income spent on all the different goods adds to 100%.

    Yes. What I do in my head is to look for where zero is for the applicable side. In this case zero for the gold is at the bottom. So the axis for that right side or for gold is horizontal across as that is the line that keeps the zero value. It works the same for the other sides. So if 50% gold move away from that point on that side on a horizontal line (the axis line or zero line) as that line keeps the 50% value constant.

    If the values are the opposite direction and say the right side or gold side was zero at the top and 100% at the bottom, then the axis for the right side or gold side would be lines parallel to the left side of the triangle as that keeps the zero value zero (and similarly for the other values). So if at 50% for gold would move away from that line on a line parallel to the left side of the triangle or the zero line / axis line.

    I think I typed all that correctly but really should double check a chart. :)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
    .
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • CoffeeTimeCoffeeTime Posts: 117 ✭✭✭

    Golden honey comes to mind for a good description. Most can relate to that

  • It'd be cool if someone ran to Home Depot & grabbed a color palette in the Paint Section.

    Chris

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