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Can you see this? 2021 Morgan

I almost never buy on EBay but did…2021 Morgan S for an OK price. Seller says he can’t see any blemish. Thoughts on what it is…neatly disappears in certain light… very dark in other light. Am I just seeing things like he says? Was not clear in listing pic (if at all)


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  • And yes I am being a little sarcastic above…

  • spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fairfaxthunder said:
    And yes I am being a little sarcastic above…

    If you can see anything on that coin your eyesight is better than mine! Lol

  • PapiNEPapiNE Posts: 326 ✭✭✭

    N_E__D blemish? I have a Silver Eagle that has something similar that comes and goes depending how its tilted. Irritating to say the least.

    USAF veteran 1984-2005

  • FairfaxthunderFairfaxthunder Posts: 66 ✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2022 5:02PM

    @PapiNE said:
    N_E__D blemish? I have a Silver Eagle that has something similar that comes and goes depending how its tilted. Irritating to say the least.

    Yes - it’s not a milk spot but an odd blemish. It was taken in just the right light to obscure or not be noticed in ad. I know there was sone quality control issues with 2021as …Are blemishes like this something that can happen from Mint? I was thinking post mint damage.

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why is it not in its capsule?

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2022 11:41PM

    Had some photos but they won't post now after deleting from the other thread with the same title (forum quirk).
    I believe it is die polish. If so, then as coins are struck the polishing will fade away but I don't know how quickly that happens.
    Let me see if one of them will post. Hey it posted, good.

    This next to eagles head.

    This with some next to eagles head and down by the D.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like you should return it. Whatcha gonna do? Peace Roy

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see it. Return? 🤨

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 6:51AM

    If it's for polish or grease strike through, it's not really a blemish is it? It's as struck.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If it's for polish or greater strike through, it's not really a blemish is it? It's as struck.

    Agree. PCGS has several with similar looking areas (like above) that are graded MS70.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
    .
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a better example than several I received direct from the mint. I would not return it.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is 1921 D Morgan with some reverse area with the same look. There are actually many of these to be found and with varying degree of shiny and in two areas. Based on die cracks they are on different dies also so I suspect there was some clashing or something they polished away. This one is graded MS67 (top pop is one in 67+).

    I owned a 21D with this look on it. However, with that said to me there is a difference in a Morgan and a the new 2021 in what I might expect or want. I might want my MS70 to look uniform but I don't collect these so I don't know how easy that is to find.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_KWVk0XeB9o - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Piece Of My Heart
    .
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just based on the pictures, I would keep it. However, if it bothers you, it will always bother you - so either return it or sell it. Cheers, RickO

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Ricko. It obviously bothers you so do a return.


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  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you return it, don't be surprised if the next one you buy for a similar "OK" price is not perfect.

    It is not easy getting 70's, for 69 prices.

  • @lilolme said:
    Here is 1921 D Morgan with some reverse area with the same look. There are actually many of these to be found and with varying degree of shiny and in two areas. Based on die cracks they are on different dies also so I suspect there was some clashing or something they polished away. This one is graded MS67 (top pop is one in 67+).

    I owned a 21D with this look on it. However, with that said to me there is a difference in a Morgan and a the new 2021 in what I might expect or want. I might want my MS70 to look uniform but I don't collect these so I don't know how easy that is to find.

    Thank you! That was very helpful!

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh , on eBay - yes, just return it - way to many 70's out there to keep something that is blemished!

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Oh , on eBay - yes, just return it - way to many 70's out there to keep something that is blemished!

    It helps to consider the buyer's and seller's return shipping, time, risk, etc. Returns are not free. Several people get hurt. I only return if something is really significantly not as advertised, and maybe have done this only twice in a thousand transactions.

    The seller may not have even seen this flaw if he did not have it at the right angle either. I can even imagine it as a minor strike through and worth more to someone. Good luck no matter what you do.

  • @Goldminers said:

    @Steven59 said:
    Oh , on eBay - yes, just return it - way to many 70's out there to keep something that is blemished!

    It helps to consider the buyer's and seller's return shipping, time, risk, etc. Returns are not free. Several people get hurt. I only return if something is really significantly not as advertised, and maybe have done this only twice in a thousand transactions.

    The seller may not have even seen this flaw if he did not have it at the right angle either. I can even imagine it as a minor strike through and worth more to someone. Good luck no matter what you do.

    Agreed and thank you. Everyone’s comments here helped me think about this. I’m keeping it. Seller and I exchanged nice letters; I’m good but did politely tell him perhaps better descriptions might be a good idea.

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