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Is this a Full Head?

This coin is in an old ANACS MS 60 holder. The holder does not say so, but the head looks pretty close to full to me. Big jump in value if I can get it into a PCGS FH holder.

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  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That looks pretty close to me. Leaf detail is a little weak, but it looks like the ear hole is there.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 4:22PM

    I don't think so but it's close...

    FH:

    Non-FH:

  • I would say no. Not enough detail in leaves. But it's close. I don't think PCGS would call it FH, Maybe NGC. Nice coin though. AC

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with most of the above...............BUT..............you never know :)
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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From our host @BeeMan
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    Defining Full Head
    PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to certain Standing Liberty Quarters grading AU50 or better, with an exception as noted below. The FH designation applies to qualifying Standing Liberty Quarters, with different criteria applying to the Type I (1916-1917) issues versus those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens.

    Type I Standing Liberty Quarters earn the FH designation when there is a clear and distinct separation between Miss Liberty’s hair cords and her cap.
    Type II Standing Liberty Quarters receive the Full Head designation when the helmet exhibits three complete and distinct leaves, a complete outline on the bottom of the helmet, and a clear ear hole on Miss Liberty’s head.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 4:40PM

    If it's not, it's very close to it!....Very nice!!!!!

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here it the pcgs video. Type 2 starts about 4 minute mark and the minimum for full head is about 5 minute mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbRJMDTaSfs&t=17s

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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=D0FPxuQv2ns - Ruby Starr (from 'Go Jim Dandy') Maybe I'm Amazed

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  • BeeManBeeMan Posts: 363 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the replies. It's basically a gamble. I might submit it anyway just to get it in a PCGS holder.

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  • spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a toss up like the one I had... If the ear hole (it's not clear to me if it's defined enough) is there it may be slightly more positive chance.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure but love the coin

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BeeMan... That is really close. I like it, but think it may miss if submitted. Just not enough ear detail, IMO. That being said, if it were mine, I believe I would try submitting.... but would not really be disappointed if not designated. Cheers, RickO

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, that's close... Definitely a bit of a gamble but the price guide difference between non-FH and FH might be worth it. Let us know how it shakes out if you decide to submit.

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't say whether it has a full head or not, SLQ is not my series? With Jefferson nickels, it's known that many dates are hard to find with a full strike with all/full design features ie; the 1953-S and 1954-S. But with only the ov. showing of the OP's coin, there are a few missing details, on the shield, fingers to name a few to warrant a FH designation. But I play by a different set of gradig standards than many of you so....carry on!

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  • justmenutty72justmenutty72 Posts: 394 ✭✭✭

    I say yes, FH

  • SIowhandSIowhand Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be eventually.

  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin meets the requirement for the designation of Full Head. IMHO

  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I found this to be kind of interesting. The 2 images below are from the MS67 FH 1928s in coinfacts. I would say the OP's coin is better than either of these.

  • 1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen a lot worse designated full head so yes your coin qualifies.

    Have a good day, Gary
  • BeeManBeeMan Posts: 363 ✭✭✭

    @scotty4449 said:
    I found this to be kind of interesting. The 2 images below are from the MS67 FH 1928s in coinfacts. I would say the OP's coin is better than either of these.

    I looked at the FH and non-FH photos in the PCGS price guide and there wasn't much difference between them.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm leaning towards no for the FH designation due to no "ear hole". 😕

    I posted this in another SLQ FH thread;

    ...but would be best to see the coin "in hand".

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definition - "three complete and distinct leaves." There is a little flatness where the three leaves meet. It's possible that the coin meets the standard of "minimum detail for full head." However, It will not CAC. No matter how nice it looks it would be considered either a "C" coin or overgraded by CAC. As a MS60 by ANACS appears to be a little harsh.

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