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1939 Worlds Fair Palladium Dollar

ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

Almost a unicorn ….but this is truly a beauty and well worth waiting to find!

Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com

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  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,089 ✭✭✭✭

    So even back then palladium was considered a precious metal?

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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2022 6:53PM

    A little more back story. This was issued privately by Baker & Co which is actually owned by drum roll Engelhard.

    Yes Palladium dates back to 1803 and was considered a very precious metal.

    These medals were basically returned (worth more than the $24 paid at the fair) and then destroyed (melted) few remain and basically I only know of a few others out there!

    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn’t know these were made in palladium. I saw the platinum version available recently.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are the photos.
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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice one, I never saw one before.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have considered this for it's scarcity and never seen one before. It's actually little more than an advertising token with a rather mundane design, the only reference to the fair being the bottom line on the obverse(PCGS managed to slab it reverse on the label side). Considering it was a major event in what was probably the world's largest city at the time there is a very small number of catalogued medals from the 1939 fair. Forgetting the "back story" how did you acquire this extremely rare medal??

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 3:55AM

    @Maywood said:
    I have considered this for it's scarcity and never seen one before. It's actually little more than an advertising token with a rather mundane design, the only reference to the fair being the bottom line on the obverse(PCGS managed to slab it reverse on the label side).

    I agree it has the appearance of an advertising token given that it has the company name prominently on it with the following text:

    Baker & Co., Inc.--Precious Metal Refinery--Newark, N. J. U. S. A. / New York--Chicago--San Francisco--Toronto--London--Paris--Tokyo; below all Engelhard Industries

    Here's one from @jonathanb on so-calleddollars.com.

    What do you think @jonathanb? Is this correctly classified as a So-Called Dollar or is it more of an advertising token/medal?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2022 5:39PM

    @Maywood said:
    Considering it was a major event in what was probably the world's largest city at the time there is a very small number of catalogued medals from the 1939 fair.

    This is probably due to cataloging rather than number of medals.

    It seems there are a lot of the 1939 World's Fair medals in the 32mm range. Medals in this range are cataloged in Hibler and Kappen as So-Called Dollars for some events like the 1933 Century of Progress in Chicago but not other events like the 1939 New York World's Fair (yet).

    https://www.so-calleddollars.com/Events/Century_of_Progress.html

    Here's another thread listing all the 32mm pieces in Hibler & Kappen:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1068442/hibler-and-kappen-so-called-half-dollars#latest

    There probably just needs to be a 3rd edition adding more 32mm medals, or a separate catalog for Hibler & Kappen So-Called Half Dollars.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting piece. I do not have any Palladium coins/medals/tokens.... Only have seen the metal in some experimental efforts by our research and development group back in the late nineties. Cheers, RickO

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hibler and Kappen were... casual... about their own rules for what qualifies as a so-called dollar. This one is definitely related to a world's fair and was listed in their 1963 book. If you want to say that it shouldn't have been listed, I won't argue. But it was listed so that's what we've got.

    I think this one is the first/only one slabbed by NGC. I've seen at least two. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least 5-10 out there somewhere.

    There is also a half ounce version and a larger version, I think 5 or maybe 10 ounces. An example of the larger version was sold in a Presidential auction about 20-30 years ago.

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