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PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

There is a Mercury dime in a PCGS holder
A 1942-S Mercury dime in a PC holder graded MS68+FB
I think it will go for MOON money
Any guess on what the final price will be?

Could it go for over $100,000.00 ?

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  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa! It is pretty spectacular! Below are the GC pics. I would guess it goes for around 45K total?


  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The TrueView hasn’t posted yet, so it was recently graded. So when is the last time it sold, and what was it graded then?

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    POP of 1 and 0 higher

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Meh, doesn't even look like a true FB coin from the GC photo. However, I have no doubt that some registry player will pay up for this coin.

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  • baseballjeffbaseballjeff Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭

    That’s an amazing coin! Huge Mercury Dime collector here. I will remain happy with my MS 65 FB!

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    For the price that it will bring, I would rather have a nice Chain Cent.

    For the price it well may bring, you can have three nice Chain Cents.

    peacockcoins

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find it very attractive yet not at that incredible expected multiple!

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    POP of 1 and 0 higher

    To each his own. Like @ricko says, "tarnish" the thought.

    Pete

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  • ColorFanColorFan Posts: 18
    edited August 5, 2022 3:14PM

    Very interesting eye popping toning. Pretty but maybe not a toning everyone will like as it is a little irregular not uniform which I prefer. Also overpriced imho at $45,000, as I think its worth under $10,000.

  • stevefromnestevefromne Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    There is a Mercury dime in a PCGS holder
    A 1942-S Mercury dime in a PC holder graded MS68+FB
    I think it will go for MOON money
    Any guess on what the final price will be?

    Could it go for over $100,000.00 ?

    It will go way over $ 100K, challenging the record holder, the 38-S

    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/52580353/10c-1938-s-pcgs-ms68--fb-cac/

    Steve

  • scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5, 2022 4:25PM

    Wow, if that 38-S went for $364,250, my 45k guess is way low. It's hard to tell with coins like these.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Moon money is right.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t think it will hit 6 figures. The 38-S was the case of a couple people driving DLH up for a very pretty coin when he was actively building his set of Mercs. DLH is not focused on Mercury Dimes these days, if you have followed any of the Currin thread. It is a very common date coin so anyone with a high grade set already will get very very few registry points with the upgrade which just won’t make it worth it. Although it would be cool if the top Merc Madness set got it, he doesn’t “need” it. In order for him to be caught by Hansen, Hansen would have to seriously upgrade 20-30 coins or something like that, depending on the set and the coins just aren’t available. Merc Madness doesn’t need it and DLH isn’t bothering with Mercury Dimes these days. Will another top 5 set put in a bid?…maybe, why not? So where else is the market for this coin? Type set folks but there are cheaper options so most of them will be out. Maybe a 1942 mint set collector or person that just buys random top pops? Maybe a few dealers will go after it a ways but not too high. They don’t want to sink a load of money into it just to have it for inventory. It does seem to have some nice color and a CAC sticker so it does have that going for it. Too bad the True View hasn’t posted yet.

    My thoughts, it could go as cheap as $25-30K or heck maybe $60k. I don’t think it will hit six figures. As with any auction, it depends on who shows up and how bad someone wants it.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a very nice MS67+FB. The problem is that it's been graded 68+FB and has been given a sticker. I am guessing the True View posted on Friday night since I know I checked on Friday afternoon and it wasn't there...or it could have been Thursday. Anyway, this is another reason you cannot rely on GC's photos, for dimes especially! The auction lot should be pulled and restarted I think. The True View was not posted until Friday and bidding was up to $18-19K. I would value this at $9K max and that would be for the color in a 67+FB CAC holder...at the price of a 68FB PCGS Price Guide.

    The strike is fan-freaking-tastic.
    The luster looks really nice...hard to judge from a photo but I think it looks great!
    The color is very great...not so even with smooth transitions but still great.

    Then lady liberty has a massive hit on the chin.
    There are two bad hits in the cap.
    There is a hit on the reverse upper bands that goes through all three of the horizontal bands.
    There is a hit across the lower vertical bands.
    If you go to the full size True View, you will see a large horizontal hit in the field above EPU that kinda blends in with the toning...then to the left of that are are two marks that could be hits.

    I hope the person buying this coin has seen the late posted True View. In my opinion, the sticker company should buy it back to take the sticker off. Opinions are like...everyone has one.
    Link to full size True View Image:
    https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/pcgs/cert/45824120/242758932.jpg

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  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The GC pictures are more revealing than the TrueView.

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just south of 20K at lunch time on the east coast.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that is a full band. Great strike! Do not like the color and I do like toned coins. Just too splotchy. This coin will sell for so much more than I would pay for any single coin. I could buy most of the coins I want for what this one will go for.
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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2022 10:06AM

    @keyman64 said:
    This is a very nice MS67+FB. The problem is that it's been graded 68+FB and has been given a sticker. I am guessing the True View posted on Friday night since I know I checked on Friday afternoon and it wasn't there...or it could have been Thursday. Anyway, this is another reason you cannot rely on GC's photos, for dimes especially! The auction lot should be pulled and restarted I think. The True View was not posted until Friday and bidding was up to $18-19K. I would value this at $9K max and that would be for the color in a 67+FB CAC holder...at the price of a 68FB PCGS Price Guide.

    The strike is fan-freaking-tastic.
    The luster looks really nice...hard to judge from a photo but I think it looks great!
    The color is very great...not so even with smooth transitions but still great.

    Then lady liberty has a massive hit on the chin.
    There are two bad hits in the cap.
    There is a hit on the reverse upper bands that goes through all three of the horizontal bands.
    There is a hit across the lower vertical bands.
    If you go to the full size True View, you will see a large horizontal hit in the field above EPU that kinda blends in with the toning...then to the left of that are are two marks that could be hits.

    I hope the person buying this coin has seen the late posted True View. In my opinion, the sticker company should buy it back to take the sticker off. Opinions are like...everyone has one.
    Link to full size True View Image:

    Have you seen it in hand? If not, this post is just word salad.

    CAC says 68. PCGS says 68+.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    @jmlanzaf word salad?

    This clearly should rule out a 68+ …

    Clearly it DIDN'T in the eyes of the majority of the 8 people who saw it in HAND.

    How do you know it doesn't look worse in the photo than in hand?

  • mavs2583mavs2583 Posts: 200 ✭✭✭✭

    Love the coin, price is going to be crazy though.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty toning hides and makes up for many sins. If those marks were on a white coin, they could knock the grade down by as much as three points.

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  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hate toning on small coins, hides too much of the detail

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That hit on the chin then scratch by the "Y" are deal breakers for me. Two point bump for color maybe?

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Winning bid $54,500.00

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:
    Winning bid $54,500.00

    Yikes...........and the wife just finding out..........

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On Aug 5, I said it could go for $25-30K or maybe up to $60K.

    I was kinda close on both. Had bidder 11 stayed out it would have finished for under $30k. With bidder 11 in the last few seconds, it was near the top of my estimate at $61,312.50.

    Congrats to the seller and new owner.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:
    On Aug 5, I said it could go for $25-30K or maybe up to $60K.

    I was kinda close on both. Had bidder 11 stayed out it would have finished for under $30k. With bidder 11 in the last few seconds, it was near the top of my estimate at $61,312.50.

    Congrats to the seller and new owner.

    Don’t give yourself too much credit, considering that your range of $25,000-$60,000 wasn’t a particularly narrow one.😉
    And since you brought up the scenario of “had bidder 11 stayed out”, it’s only fair to ponder how much higher the price could have been if an additional strong bidder had participated.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shark jumper for sure.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @keyman64 said:
    On Aug 5, I said it could go for $25-30K or maybe up to $60K.

    I was kinda close on both. Had bidder 11 stayed out it would have finished for under $30k. With bidder 11 in the last few seconds, it was near the top of my estimate at $61,312.50.

    Congrats to the seller and new owner.

    Don’t give yourself too much credit, considering that your range of $25,000-$60,000 wasn’t a particularly narrow one.😉
    And since you brought up the scenario of “had bidder 11 stayed out”, it’s only fair to ponder how much higher the price could have been if an additional strong bidder had participated.

    Since you placed no guess and sat on the sidelines and had nothing in the game, you get to criticize mine. Gotcha. Lol.
    I was pretty close in two different ways. All said, I'd still prefer to be better at picking lottery numbers than the sale numbers here. :wink:

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @keyman64 said:
    On Aug 5, I said it could go for $25-30K or maybe up to $60K.

    I was kinda close on both. Had bidder 11 stayed out it would have finished for under $30k. With bidder 11 in the last few seconds, it was near the top of my estimate at $61,312.50.

    Congrats to the seller and new owner.

    Don’t give yourself too much credit, considering that your range of $25,000-$60,000 wasn’t a particularly narrow one.😉
    And since you brought up the scenario of “had bidder 11 stayed out”, it’s only fair to ponder how much higher the price could have been if an additional strong bidder had participated.

    Since you placed no guess and sat on the sidelines and had nothing in the game, you get to criticize mine. Gotcha. Lol.
    I was pretty close in two different ways. All said, I'd still prefer to be better at picking lottery numbers than the sale numbers here. :wink:

    I didn’t criticize your guess - I just ribbed you for taking credit for being “kinda close on both”. When one estimated range was $25,000-$30,000 and the coin brought more than double it, I just don’t see that as “kinda close”.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @keyman64 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @keyman64 said:
    On Aug 5, I said it could go for $25-30K or maybe up to $60K.

    I was kinda close on both. Had bidder 11 stayed out it would have finished for under $30k. With bidder 11 in the last few seconds, it was near the top of my estimate at $61,312.50.

    Congrats to the seller and new owner.

    Don’t give yourself too much credit, considering that your range of $25,000-$60,000 wasn’t a particularly narrow one.😉
    And since you brought up the scenario of “had bidder 11 stayed out”, it’s only fair to ponder how much higher the price could have been if an additional strong bidder had participated.

    Since you placed no guess and sat on the sidelines and had nothing in the game, you get to criticize mine. Gotcha. Lol.
    I was pretty close in two different ways. All said, I'd still prefer to be better at picking lottery numbers than the sale numbers here. :wink:

    I didn’t criticize your guess - I just ribbed you for taking credit for being “kinda close on both”. When one estimated range was $25,000-$30,000 and the coin brought more than double it, I just don’t see that as “kinda close”.

    5 digits...

    Congratulations to everyone who said "less than $100,000". You were all spot on.

    Amazing strike on that coin.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fathom said:
    It's pretty clear a 68+ should not have scuffs like that. Facts are stubborn things.

    Go look at the PCGS plate coin for 68. It has a similar little hit on the chin and a vastly inferior strike.

    FACT is its a 68+ with a CAC. Very stubborn fact, that. That makes it a definite 68. [CAC doesn't recognize plus grades.] Are you really going to quibble over 68 vs 68+ without actually seeing the coin in hand?

    Very stubborn things, those facts.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes I will quibble all day long that 68 or 68+ is near perfection with regard to scuffs or hits.

    But it's an opinion and I get that, and TPGs get it too, hence the disclaimers.

  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How could PCGS possibly grade that artificially toned coin????

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 2:57AM

    Here's the link now that it sold:

    I find it valuable to have Gold Shield and CAC on high-end toners.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @habaraca said:
    How could PCGS possibly grade that artificially toned coin????

    They didn't - it doesn't look artificially toned.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • WiscKauWiscKau Posts: 192 ✭✭✭✭

    Since I'm not a Registry Set chaser, I like this for less than $200:

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WiscKau said:
    Since I'm not a Registry Set chaser, I like this for less than $200:

    Nice coin but it doesn't compare to the GC dime.

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WiscKau said:
    Since I'm not a Registry Set chaser, I like this for less than $200:

    Nice coin but it doesn't compare to the GC dime.

    Different date and mint.
    At least it has a clean jaw.


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  • NicNic Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 9:22AM

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    @jmlanzaf word salad?

    This clearly should rule out a 68+ …

    Are those killer die flow lines on the cheek? Just to put the jaw marks in perspective.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WiscKau said:
    Since I'm not a Registry Set chaser, I like this for less than $200:

    Nice coin but it doesn't compare to the GC dime.

    Different date and mint.
    At least it has a clean jaw.

    Look closer

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